Author Topic: Parents of Columbine victims sue software developers  (Read 1007 times)

Offline CptTrips

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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2001, 01:49:00 PM »
I do think  gratuitously violent games like Ureal, Quake and other teach children a very important lesson.  There are very few problems in life that can’t be solved with the application of ridiculous amounts of firepower.  After all, guns and violence are what made this country great.  Just as the Indians.

Seriously though, I do think these overly graphic portrayals of death, murder, and violence can have serious, long term, detrimental effects.  But Computer games are far from the only culprit.  One of the worse offenders I ever saw I ran across in the public library the other day.  Here was this book laying around in a public library where any child might pick it up by accident.  After a few minutes of thumbing through it I was horrified.  It was literally rife with stories of brothers murdering their own brother, so-in-so smiting so-in-so, wars, bondage.  There was this powerful spirit entity that went around burning towns to the ground that displeased him.  At one point this being wipes out nearly the entire human population of the world.  Not a peaceful death either.  Drowning. (shudder)  Can you imagine, treading water for days vainly trying to find some high ground or tree branches finally, exhausted, sinking below the surface, convulsing at the shock of that first lungful of cold water.  Imagine the masses of floating, bloated, rotting human corpses.  (shudder)  All because this spirit was angry and had the power to destroy.  Is this the kind of problem solving skill we want to teach our youngsters?  Was there no other way to resolve these disputes?  Could some kind of mediation be brought in?  Counseling?   I could go on but this book was full cover-to-cover of more of the same.  Finally at the end of the book the protagonist is brutally and sadistically tortured and nailed to planks of wood and left to die an agonizing death.  This kind of violent imagery can have no possible beneficial effect on the minds of our young people.  In our rush to ban computer games lets not leave these other sources of violent brutal imagery uncontrolled.

(not a parent, but a concerned citizen),
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Offline Apache

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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2001, 01:57:00 PM »
Tort reform.......NOW!

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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2001, 02:10:00 PM »
Whoa hold on a minute here, blaming the parents is one thing but sueing them is another.  Granted maybe we should look at other reasons as to why this happened.  Parents working 2 jobs, mother figure not in the house, I strongly disagree with the fact that games or movies played a factor in this.  I do believe a strong resentment towards fellow students for their bully tactics employed in school.

Sometimes it is hard for a youth to talk to their parents about what is going on.  Might be the parents thought nothing was wrong with their kids.  We will never know, nor should we really dwell on it either.  Is it directly related to something in our life?  Maybe and this is a long shot maybe but what about the media's roll in this?  keep showing us images of death and mayhem in the neighborhoods is just as bad as seeing it on computer screen.

If your gonna blame someone blame the media as well.    

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Offline sling322

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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2001, 02:15:00 PM »
You are right Apache....I read that story last week.  It was homeowners insurance that paid the settlement.

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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2001, 02:25:00 PM »
Sue the software developers for providing violent games, sue the parents for lack of proper upbringing, sue the school system for not protecting kids, sue the community for not providing activities, sue the gun manufacturer for making the gun, sue the coat manufacturer for making coats big enough to hide guns in, sue the police for not protecting the community, sue the friends for knowing something was wrong, sue the entertainment industry for portraying gratuitous violence, yadda yadda yadda blah blah blah.

We all know that money can aid your grief.  If it's not about money, then sue for $0 to make a point.

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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2001, 02:30:00 PM »
LOL, fury!  My point exactly!

Where does the madness stop?  Blame the Lawyers you say? WRONG!  Its the JUDGES in these cases that ALLOW it to happen.  That's why its very important to know the judge you mark on your voters ballot next year, because years down the road, that same judge allowing things like this to be heard are the same judges elected for life as they progress to higher courts of law!

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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2001, 03:00:00 PM »
What?  Personal responsibility?  Surely you jest!  This is America!  McDonald's was sued because, imagine this, coffee is served HOT.

Its stupid.  I'm sure the flying club will sue HTC for the flying I'm doing in their Cessna's now....you know, all those hours of flying aerobatic airplanes and forgetting I'm in an Cessna WarHawk and not a C-Hog!

If the parents wanna blame someone, buy them all mirrors and have em look into them.  

Nice try, you can't sue the reaper.



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