Author Topic: for squad ops and missions (Read 326 times)

corpse · « **on:** January 30, 2007, 06:07:12 PM »

Id like to see an option of hiding the icon signature of squads from the map for doing speccop missions so the flight wouldnt be ratted out by others for friends on opposition and also
in clipboard mission planner have option to hide missions as well on the map as well as a radio silence ex/by mission fliers
no abilty to pm or talk on country or 200 while in a mission
i think this will add a degree of success to the mission without the possibilty of having a rouge spy in the midst

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HevyHand · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2007, 10:46:15 PM »

That would be a grate thing to have in this game:aok

DREDger · « **Reply #2 on:** January 31, 2007, 08:56:29 AM »

I've found the general consensus in AH is that cheating does not really occur as much as one might think (regarding ratting missions). When large dar bar appears a couple of bases back, any alert player on the opposing team will see it and deduct a mission is IB. NOE missions are a different story, but bases start flashing when you get close, and again the alert player can point it out.

As far as preventing people from PMing or speaking on radio 200 while in mission, I doubt that would really work. If a guy wanted to, he could up with the mission, then bail, then send the PM or talk on 200. Or for that matter, just see what base the mission is leaving from w/o even joining.

Even if you implemented the changes you are talking about, what is to stop someone from using a cell phone to call their friend or whatnot.

Anyway, for every measure, it seems those dedicated to spying can find some countermeasure, so the problem is insurmountable IMO.

I think the most effective deterent for this sort of behaviour is it doesn't seem all that entertaining to me, just sitting around in one country, just to warn your friends in the other country of a mission...not even getting to fight off the mission...(yawn)

Also, it is hard enough to get folks to join the mission to begin with, most folks just want to get up and furball or do their own thing. Based on that I just don't see the dedication to try and counteract the mission..if that make any sense.

Anyway, just my 0.02

corpse · « **Reply #3 on:** January 31, 2007, 09:11:44 AM »

that would be another thing to point out as well why the dar bar?i mean come on in ww2 did british or any other country have this big bar in thier skies when a mission was ib no all it does is warn the nmy with enuff time to up interccepters if we had this in the mid 40s pearl harbor would not have happened ad some realism to the game for once
and dred as far as someone bailin durin an noe mission then theirs 10 to one a possible spy where if they bail you change plans always have a backup plan dont inform people of where when lifting just follow the leader a need to know basis and they dont need to know
i suggested the idea just for the shear fact that some well trained squads that know how to fly noe with out poping dar would be able to canl out their radar blip in the map so some some newb or "spy" doesnt try to tag along or says hey what you guys in 13 2 4 sector hitting on country:furious

DREDger · « **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2007, 09:29:22 AM »

I hear ya and feel ur pain. This is coming from the guy who posts missions every night that I play. I've had more than my fair share 'busted' by arriving NOE into a horde with alt, have the dweeb LA7 go RIGHT for the 3 goons and kill the mission. Fly in with alt only to find more LA7's right there with alt diving in on our heavy jugs, you name it.

I've even had guys on these posts flat out tell me they would rat out my missions just to cause grief, because they don't agree with the strategy I've tried to implement.

In all the missions I have run though, there has always been a plausible reason for the mission to be found out w/o pulling the 'someone ratted us out' reason(though I always wonder). When we take off the lone bomber or fighter right there who u know is going ape ***** on local telling everyone when and where. Or you happen across this guy or that....or the one guy who see's the base flashing ups to bust it, runs right at the goons.

It sucks, but thats what we got. All in all, the missions for the most part fail because of bad timing, poor performance by the joiners, poor planning the leader and just flat out BAD LUCK.

As far as the other stuff, the US did have radar at pearl harbor but ignored it. Remember also this is a game, in real life they didn't have big red icons telling you type of plane, distance and direction. Fields had finite amounts of lifters, spawns didn't magically put you 35 miles down the road, etc.

With all that said though, I can't say I don't find your idea without merit. Missions should not show where the base is taking off from for all to see. And perhaps if you are in a mission, your 'dot' signature maybe shoudn't be allowed to be seen by all in country...fairly easy fixes....I am just not sure it would make a difference in mission sucess frankly.