Spit I

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by redman555
dont fly the spit 1, its garbage lol

-BigBOBCH

You really think so?   You'd be in the tower many times against me in a Spit 1.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by Oldman731
Actually, I have found it impossible to recover from this stall.  Happens when you're inverted and slow, typically at the top of a loop.  I used to be able to get the same thing in a 38G, but that hasn't happened in awhile.

There are a number of people who refuse to fly the Spit I for this reason (looks sideways at Dedalos).  If you're careful about it, usually you can avoid it.

- oldman

lol, Spit V is the same way.  You do not want to stall upside down in a spit.  It just floats to the earth perfectly balanced.  Flaps, gear, engine, try anything, that thing always remain perfectly balanced.  The funniest part is that for it to happen, you must be nose down first

[CAP1]

Originally posted by dedalos
lol, .  The funniest part is that for it to happen, you must be nose down first

and that makes no sense, as that's pretty much what ya need to get air flowing over the control surfaces.........

[Geophro]

After this discussion, I did some stalls offline to demonstrate what I was talking about.
Picture Hangar was down, so I could not post some films of recovery.  That's fixed now.
Note that I could only induce the stall once without the flaps out, and that took about 30 minutes of attempts.
I was also surprised at just how difficult it was to induce the stall.  Basically I needed to be slow, flaps down, nose high, and apply aggressive cross-control inputs to make it happen.  I also recovered less than 10% of the time from 10K+ starting altitude.
Here are 3 successful recoveries that may help the rest of us that do stall these things:

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1144_1204999132_spitistallrecovery01.ahf
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1144_1204999177_spitiinvstallrecovery02.ahf
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1144_1204999206_spitiinvstallrecovery03.ahf

[Urchin]

I haven't looked at your films yet, but I can generally recover the Spit I when I get it into the floating leaf stall.  The advice someone posted about dropping the gear seems to work for me.  I raise the flaps, drop the gear, the nose will come down after a couple seconds.  Whats really wierd is the engine usually doesn't have to be manually restarted, even though it will be cut out for 3-5 seconds.

[Messiah]

Ahh the floating leaf stall, another fine reason to stick to well-made German Iron.

[Gixer]

Couple occasions I've come across Spit I in MA it's always been entertaining. Mainly because they latch onto your six like a lost puppy and after that it sounds like your sitting in a tin shed during a hail storm. Not sure if it's the lack of proper convergence or not but eventually the hail stops and you step outside. 

<<S>> to all Spit/Hurr I pilots must be as frustrating as using a screw driver when you need a spanner at times.


<S>...-Gixer