iWantone

[Chairboy]

Yeah, analysts like Goldman Sachs are way too flash in the pan to be trusted, heh.

[Mr No Name]

iPhone has a laundry list or problems... I played with this phone about 2 hours (my cousin bought one first day)  In that time I learned:

You must be tethered to a wireless LAN to do the you tube stuff
You must subscribe to iTunes monthly for the phone to be active
You must ship the phone back to apple if the battery dies... User cannot replace it.
No wired headset jack
You cannot add memory to the phone
You cannot add your own personal mp3s to the phone... Itunes only
No instant messenger software
No VPN or corporate mail like most PDAs
Camera takes stills only, no video
No picture messaging... you can take pics but you cannot send them via MMS lol
No over the air music downloads, again tethered to iTunes
Google maps just gives you a map, no gps or gps via bluetooth support
Insurance not available for this phone
loudspeaker is mono only
no USB for downloading
no using the iFlop as an external HD
No editing or creating office files, just view them
Not even one game on the thing
600 to 700 dollars
You cannot save email attachments to view later

[Mr No Name]

Originally posted by Sandman
Check your drivers. I have a Creative Zen Nano and an AMD CPU.

Works fine.

Back on topic: I don't like integrated devices any more than I like integrated software. It usually sucks.

I have a cellphone.
I have an MP3 player.
I have a digital camera.
I have a GPS receiver.

Any of these can fail without detriment to the other three.

AMD here too and i use zen nano... zero probs here....

My HP iPaq 6515 has all of those wrapped into one device with 6GB storage

[Vulcan]

And so it begins chairboy...

(from an iphone forum, thats hosted on the same server as a treo forum in case you're wondering):

Decided to return our iPhones today....

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...Well after using them for a week, I agree wholeheartedly that this device will change the mobile industry, but the lack of 3G as well as other current shortcomings of the iPhone just make it an easier for my gf and I to go back to our treo 750's. For one thing, call quality (over bluetooth as well) seems much more solid on the treo, as does signal strength. The lack of a 3G option was a real disappointment as well, as whenever we got anything less than 4-5 bars on the iPhone safari just seemed to stall while downloading a webpage.

PIM functions, while so incredibly cool looking and pretty, just aren't up to par with other smartphones right now. A prime example is that when you have an appointment in your iPhone calendar with a reminder, the reminder alerts you once with a tone that's not nearly loud enough, but never seems to remind you again. No repeating alerts, no snooze, no dismissing. Funny thing is that all these functions seem to be in the alarm clock, but not the calendar alerts....what happened here apple? Also, you should be able to pick your tones for things like emails, messaging, calendars, etc.

I also noticed that bluetooth on the iPhone was not nearly as strong as on the treo 750. With the 750, we could be on our headsets and have a wall between me and my phone with no static, with the iPhone, the other end hears a garbly voice while I would hear static. I'm also severely disappointed in the lack of an OBEX profile for bluetooth. I couldn't even transfer my vCard to a coworker the other day or receive one from him. Every other smartphone does this. Tethering is also not enabled, and I doubt it will ever be. What's the point of Bluetooth 2.0+EDR if it doesn't make use of it at all? A2DP should have been available as well.


I hate that I can't trust the signal bars on the iPhone. They're not a good representation of what signal you're actually getting. At one point I stood in one spot and the signal bars jumped from 5 to 2 to 5 to 1 then dropped the call.

I have no complaints about the keyboard, in fact I loved it. It's an even better keyboard to use than the treo keyboard after you've had a couple beers! I do wish it made an appearance in your contacts screen though, so you could search through them easily.

My last real big issue with the iPhone is really just the restricted feeling of it. You get an iphone and sure you can put your sim card in another phone and use data and sms, but everytime you call voicemail you'll get a silly text message, MMS will no longer be provisioned, and the whole point of SIM cards on GSM really seems to be lost. When you put your sim into any phone other than the iphone, it feels like all the features just aren't enabled because of this. Oh, and I don't like the fact that the iPhone won't give you the standard GSM network options that all other GSM phones seem to give you, like the ability to change how long to wait before the network forwards your call to voicemail. I had to use another phone to change these options when I should have been able to do it from my iPhone. The iPhone should just be another GSM phone, lock it if you want, but all this proprietary plan crap just stinks, both switching to it and then switching away from it. It's so much more trouble than it really needs to be.

Oh, I should also add....the antenna being on the bottom of the phone is a questionable design. I wouldn't know where else to put it, but many many people hold the phone there, and if you actually go to the field test screen of the iphone, you'll notice at least a 10dBm difference between when your hand is holding the phone at the bottom versus holding it at the top. I think this is the cause of some of the dropped calls I had, but even holding it at the top the RF didn't seem as strong as the 750, which held a call when the iPhone could not.

And apple should have released an update this week to increase the in call volume. The earpiece is not loud enough (for the phone being the killer app on this phone), and the speakerphone volume is quite simply laughable.

Also, Apple really needs to open up to 3rd parties. Imagine the kinds of applications you'd see on the iPhone when this happens. The iPhone will NEVER reach anywhere close to its full potential until any developer can write any application they want for it (just like the Palm). With the functionality (or lack thereof) of the iphone right now, I just can't justify $600+tax on it.

I will be back, though, for version 2 of the iPhone when they put in (hopefully) GPS and 3G.


If anyone wants one, gimme a PM. I'm in the SF Bay Area

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Yeah, analysts like Goldman Sachs are way too flash in the pan to be trusted, heh.

Final figure of 270,000.... whoops Goldman Sachs got burnnnnnnnnnnnnnned

[Chairboy]

Yikes!  Well, that is lower, but not a bad start.  I guess we'll have to wait a little longer to see how it pans out in long term.

[moot]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/23/technology/23iphone.html