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Offline Serenity

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Need help with a visual bug
« on: June 23, 2008, 02:42:04 AM »
Im having two major visual issues on this computer, though ive only got pictures of one. The one I have no pictures of is a bullet hole issue. When I take a hit to the cockpit sometimes, my foreward view is suddenly FILLED with craters, so much so I cannot see through them. They are in a perfect grid pattern. The second is, sometimes when looking foreward or backward, the clipboard partially appears and obstructs my view. Here is what that one looks like:



Unfortunately, this one forced me to lose sight of a pair of P-51s hot on my six.




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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2008, 06:05:44 AM »
That is normally associated with a video card whose memory is overheating or failing.
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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2008, 07:14:38 PM »
That is normally associated with a video card whose memory is overheating or failing.

So... buy a new memory card? Or, seeing as I don't even HAVE a dedicated video card in this computer (that I know of) buy a video card?

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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2008, 09:51:27 PM »
If you are planning on buying a new card, then plz dont go to the local staples of circuit city, talk about rip off. at my staples i can spend the same money for a 6x00 model Nvidia card as i would at www.newegg.com for a 9600 model card.

If you have an open PCIe x16 or even a PCIe 2.0 x16 slot, then i reccomend these cards for price ranges:(I am an Nvidia 'Fanboy' so no Atis are featured on my list)
$100-$200= EVGA Nvidia 384Mb 9600 GSO
$201-$250=EVGA Nvidia 512Mb 8800GTS (G92) This is what i have, and love it. plays this game on 1680X1050 full everything at 59 fps (Monitor's max due to refresh rate).
$399=EVGA GTX 260
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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2008, 03:04:15 AM »
If you are planning on buying a new card, then plz dont go to the local staples of circuit city, talk about rip off. at my staples i can spend the same money for a 6x00 model Nvidia card as i would at www.newegg.com for a 9600 model card.

If you have an open PCIe x16 or even a PCIe 2.0 x16 slot, then i reccomend these cards for price ranges:(I am an Nvidia 'Fanboy' so no Atis are featured on my list)
$100-$200= EVGA Nvidia 384Mb 9600 GSO
$201-$250=EVGA Nvidia 512Mb 8800GTS (G92) This is what i have, and love it. plays this game on 1680X1050 full everything at 59 fps (Monitor's max due to refresh rate).
$399=EVGA GTX 260
$500+ = EVGA GTX280

Thanks! I really dont care enough about the issue to spend $100 on it though, lol.

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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2008, 11:21:58 AM »
If you don't even HAVE a video card yet, a simple $45+ video card (i.e. even a very old Radeon 9600) will go light years towards fixing your gaming problems.

Integrated video = crap.

I mean that in the most sincere way. I had it on many computers for many years, and will never go back. Even a basic vid card is better than no vid card.


P.S. What make and model do you have for your PC?

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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2008, 09:51:58 PM »
If you don't even HAVE a video card yet, a simple $45+ video card (i.e. even a very old Radeon 9600) will go light years towards fixing your gaming problems.

Integrated video = crap.

I mean that in the most sincere way. I had it on many computers for many years, and will never go back. Even a basic vid card is better than no vid card.


P.S. What make and model do you have for your PC?

Not even worth $45. I spend 8 days a month on this particular computer. It's annoying but not life-threatening.

As far as make and model, this one is an a6157c TV&PC.

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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2008, 07:31:46 AM »
if you do end up buying a cheep video card make sure your power supply has enough power to run it. 450-500 watts is a normal power supply
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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 11:26:47 AM »
Kilz, power supply is not an issue for a budget video card.

Serenity: You're only using it 8 days out of the month, sure, but those 8 days are they filled with frustration and complications? When you DO use it, do you want it to run smooth?

You might be strapped for cash, but if you have the means to scrape up a little money, a 1-time investment will prolong your gaming lifespan for a few years.

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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2008, 11:06:42 PM »
Kilz, power supply is not an issue for a budget video card.

Serenity: You're only using it 8 days out of the month, sure, but those 8 days are they filled with frustration and complications? When you DO use it, do you want it to run smooth?

You might be strapped for cash, but if you have the means to scrape up a little money, a 1-time investment will prolong your gaming lifespan for a few years.

lol. Krusty, I cannot begin to tell you just how strapped for cash I am ;)

Im in NEED of a new stick, and while thats my top priority, I won't have the cash for it for about six years ;)

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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2008, 05:24:07 AM »
Same thing here?


Other meshes get out of shape too, the same way.  e.g. a plane will have a 500 yard long polygon sticking out at certain LOD..
Is it definitely the video card, or could the system ram be it too?  I just ran a few other 3D apps and 1 of the games (Crysis) actualy froze the PC for a bit.  Once it unfroze, windows said the nvidia driver had made some fatal error and the pc had to restart..  It had reverted to some safe mode-like low resolution.
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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2008, 08:37:12 AM »
I also have some noisy pixels when the screen is black (during blackouts and also when some films (actual live action movies) have a largely black screen), both in the game and outside of it.  There'll be maybe half a dozen somewhat flickering red, green and blue pixels.  I also noticed two white pixels on the very first bootup screen, during the RAM check..  And then there's one blue pixel always in the same spot, during the Windows startup screen.

Alt-tabbing out of Aces High will usualy fix the graphics glitches, till the next time they show up a bit later.  Is there any way to figure out if it's the system ram, or the video card's?  I've disassembled everything, clean any dust I saw, and redid the thermal paste on the video card..
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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2008, 11:53:45 AM »
Yes moot, I'd say the same thing there. It's either video card failure or overheating. Overheating can also lead to failure (how's that for a catch22?), as you know.

You may have redone the thermal paste, but also try simply opening your case and running something. Look in the case. Do a visual check on your fans. I had a fan start dying on my sister's computer's vidcard, and got similar artifacts.

Also the exhaust venting is important, depending on how cluttered the innards of your case are, the air might be going in circles rather than in one side and out the other.

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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2008, 01:51:17 AM »
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Re: Need help with a visual bug
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2008, 11:58:29 AM »
Disassembled everything and put it back together like I said... down to the smallest elements I can take apart myself.  It all went back together clean as new, and still the computer died.  I just turned it back on with nothing hooked up, and it now runs with everything but the graphics card plugged in (running on integrated gfx chips).. So I guess the gfx card died.

And it is a micro-atx mobo, but I have 4  7cm fans pulling air out of the side of the case (aimed at the fan-side of the gfx card), plus one feeding the CPU inward fan (OEM orientation) in the back of the case...  Thanks for the help.
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