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Offline FrodeMk3

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« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2008, 05:51:19 PM »
Where I live, at least 50% of the women I know know how to shoot. At least 1 in 20 actually hunts.

Your statement is akin to dismissing the possibility that women should learn how to change a tire, just because most women are not car-nuts/gearheads.

You should look at more than just Texas in this. I did, because most Blue-state women tend to shy away from them.

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« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2008, 06:06:35 PM »
You should look at more than just Texas in this. I did, because most Blue-state women tend to shy away from them.

Well if it is cultural, varying by region, then the phenomenon does not constitute a flaw of women. It is a fault of a culture whose cranial-rectal inversion is so total that some dopey soccer mom thinks the only thing she can do to protect her children from nuisance wildlife is try to fight off a bear with her fingernails.

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« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2008, 06:48:16 PM »
Yet the USA has some of the worst murder rates in the world. Some US cities are considered more dangerous than baghdad.

Vulcan you have been told time and again that those cities high murder rates are in isolated communities dominated by minority gangs who shoot each other. The rest of the communities in the cities in question see almost no murder other than what is statistical for non-minorities living together. The minority communities where the murders take place are blip on the population statistic for those cities under any other productive catigory. Its like Londons high minority upon minority crime rate which scews the total crime rate fro England and all the white citizens living in the small villages and towns with 1% of the total murders each year.

Do you have a rational reason for continuing to offer this well known canard? In those cities the law abiding citizens who make up the majority productive population do not go into those communities. New Zealand has its parralle in "hoons".

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article1073096.ece

Hoons are the underclass of New Zealand. They are inarticulate and unkempt to a degree that would appal even a chav. (No Burberry caps for hoons; simply wearing shoes often takes too much sartorial effort.) But, in other respects, hoons are just like the underclass of any other modern Western country.

They often grow up without their fathers. The succession of “uncles” who come through their home may beat or rape them. They attend school only because it is compulsory until sixteen, and leave having acquired neither an education nor any qualifications. They work in unskilled jobs, if they work at all. They have no interests and no ambitions, unless you count sex and intoxication (especially from marijuana, which grows like a weed in New Zealand). The sex leads to children, but rarely to marriage. They smoke, eat junk and die younger than the rest of us. And then their children do it all over again.

It is in this subculture of listless depravity that women and children are so frequently murdered and abused. And it is because New Zealand has such a large underclass that its social statistics are so bad.

Why are there so many hoons in New Zealand? You might expect this to be a matter of fierce national debate. Yet, until recently, there has been little serious discussion of the problem, and certainly no serious action to remedy it.

One reason for this diffidence is that many New Zealanders subscribe to the modern ethos of non-judgmentalism. For those whose motto is “I don't like to judge”, it is almost impossible even to identify, let alone to remedy, the problem of an underclass.

But, more importantly, discussing these problems makes New Zealanders feel queasy because it inevitably draws you into race issues. Not all hoons are Maori, and not all Maori are hoons. Far from it. But there is a correlation. Consider just these facts.

Maori are 15 per cent of the population, but 50 per cent of the prison population. Forty per cent of Maori children grow up in fatherless homes, compared with 17 per cent of whites. A third of Maori boys leave school with no qualification, compared with 13 per cent of white boys. The child murder rate is 1.5 per 100,000 among Maori, compared with 0.7 among whites. Maori life expectancy is seven years less than that of whites.


Seems the formula is the same all over the world. Minorities commite most of the crimes. Everyone else is productive and know where not to go after dark.

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« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2008, 08:17:37 PM »
Firearm: the great equalizer.

But what if the other guy has a bigger gun then you.  :D



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« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2008, 08:21:48 PM »
shoot first, hit first.

..to the victor, the spoils. 
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« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2008, 08:25:19 PM »
retard obama wants 2 take guns out of homes, hes so dumb, u aint touchin my gun....  :rock


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« Reply #51 on: September 25, 2008, 09:15:58 PM »
But what if the other guy has a bigger gun then you.  :D

If the other guy has .22 in hand, he already comprises someone too dangerous to mess with as a matter of business. Even if you "win", chances are you are still going to loose. No profit in that.

OTOH, "Territorial Imperative" by Robert Ardrey is a fascinating book. Demonstrates the evolutionary reason why a Schnauzer in its own yard can often drive off a Doberman interloper, among other things.