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Offline Angus

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Re: Could the Me-262..
« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2008, 05:03:47 PM »
The Meteor in general. He flew them all and the 262 so I guess he's the authoritative test pilot source on these early jets.

Then the question remains, for shortly after the war the meteor was the fastest of the lot.
262 had one quirk though which could be fixed, - no regulator. So throttling up and down was very delicate. But on full power and going that is not an issue.
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Re: Could the Me-262..
« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2008, 11:04:56 AM »
WW great website. I've book marked it!  The thing that is most often missed that amazes me is the courage the early jet pioneers and everyone that did mach busting testing had to do their job.
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Re: Could the Me-262..
« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2008, 04:49:16 PM »
Then the question remains, for shortly after the war the meteor was the fastest of the lot.

Well, that's not really a fair comparison given the rapid advancement of engine development at that time. If the war had dragged on with a functioning German industry the 262 would also have had more powerful engines at that time. The 262 is really a spring/summer 1944 aircraft and changed very little performance wise throughout the war.
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Re: Could the Me-262..
« Reply #48 on: November 27, 2008, 07:11:00 PM »
Well, that's not really a fair comparison given the rapid advancement of engine development at that time. If the war had dragged on with a functioning German industry the 262 would also have had more powerful engines at that time. The 262 is really a spring/summer 1944 aircraft and changed very little performance wise throughout the war.
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Re: Could the Me-262..
« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2008, 05:22:39 AM »
Well, that's not really a fair comparison given the rapid advancement of engine development at that time. If the war had dragged on with a functioning German industry the 262 would also have had more powerful engines at that time. The 262 is really a spring/summer 1944 aircraft and changed very little performance wise throughout the war.

The 262 probably wouldn't. The engines at the power they had, did incredibly short service time and were quite unreliable.The reason was that the design exceeded the available material.Germany in shortage.
However, it would have been interesting to see a 262 powered with the post war Meteor engines;)
Bear in mind though that they were a different design, and the concept is no longer in use...
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: Could the Me-262..
« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2008, 06:47:25 AM »
IIRC Adolph Galland, who flew Meteors post war in South America, said his ideal jet of the time would have been a 262 with Rolls Royce engines.

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Re: Could the Me-262..
« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2008, 09:13:30 AM »
The 262 probably wouldn't. The engines at the power they had, did incredibly short service time and were quite unreliable.The reason was that the design exceeded the available material.Germany in shortage.
However, it would have been interesting to see a 262 powered with the post war Meteor engines;)
Bear in mind though that they were a different design, and the concept is no longer in use...

Yes it was a production quality issue, not a design issue. Let's put it like this: If the British or US had copied the 262 design after VE day in 1945 (a one year old plane at that time) and built it using proper materials and in proper production facilities (as opposed to in a forest clearing somewhere in Germany), this "allied 262" would have been far, far superior to the British and US designs at that time.

Fact is that many 262's were made from scrap in the bush using hand tools, and still they were more than a match for the best the allies could make.
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