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Disbanded Regiment
« on: December 22, 2008, 09:21:31 AM »
Big Salute to all military servicemen and women who have or will share the same fate.

The garrison of Vaxholm was established in 1548 by the swedish king Gustav Vasa. He placed it there for very strategic reasons, the passage outside of Vaxholm being the only route for heavy shipping in and out of the Stockholm harbor. In 2006 this strategically important location was abandoned and the regiment there disbanded.

This film is to honor the regiment and all the men and few women who served there through the years, and to remember those brave souls who paid the ultimate price in service of their country.

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Re: Disbanded Regiment
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2008, 10:26:42 AM »
Nice film there. <S>

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Re: Disbanded Regiment
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2008, 10:37:10 AM »
What was the reason for disbanding such an outstanding force? Should have kept the tradition going and just gave them a new mission.

My guess is we aint going to be seeing "The Age Of Aquarius" in our lifetimes.

Anyway....... :salute
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Re: Disbanded Regiment
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2008, 10:38:13 AM »
What was the reason for disbanding such an outstanding force? Should have kept the tradition going and just gave them a new mission.

My guess is we aint going to be seeing "The Age Of Aquarius" in our lifetimes.

Anyway....... :salute

One word: Politicians  :mad:

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Re: Disbanded Regiment
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2008, 11:04:46 AM »
Tradition is expensive. When finances are very tight sometimes tradition becomes secondary.
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Re: Disbanded Regiment
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2008, 11:41:17 AM »
This goes way beyond tradition and money savings, it's stupidity. I could go through the details but figure nobody here really gives a damn.

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Re: Disbanded Regiment
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2008, 06:26:53 PM »
Sorry you are upset but deactivated units are a fact of life here. I had 3 deactivated out from under me. It had a definite impact on my career but that's the way things go. Force restructuring is something that is done at times for various reasons. There have been units reactivated in the last 10 years as well because of rearranging the way they want the military to be positioned and mission changes.
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Re: Disbanded Regiment
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2008, 07:10:40 PM »
Yeah, all of what you said is true. The US military however operate at a whole different level and larger numbers. When you disband 4 batallions of 6 available, it is felt throughout the entire branch. We operate at a budget roughly 0.5% of the US military. Some experts claim we'd need to increase that by 50% to even have a effective operative force at currently set goals, I agree with that. Imo we need to at least double the budget in order to not put the entire country at risk. We're very close to a increasingly aggressive Russia and while the politicians promise neighboring nations help should they need it, they provide very little means for doing so. It is so bad that we currently could not defend our own country. To give you a few numbers, in ten years we've gone from a fully-mobilized armed force numbering almost 800.000 men and women all branches. That is a huge number for a country of only 9 million people. The entire number could have been mobilized within a week at the most. Currently we have a force of roughly 50.000 men, no reserves. The entire 50k force would currently take ~12 months to mobilize.

To make matters worse, all coastal defense bunkers and fortified positions in the archipelago have all been sealed up with concrete. The Visby class corvette, a excellent weapons platform, was effectively castrated by the prime minister's own decision to not aquire a integrated SAM missile system for these boats. So now, these ships will no longer be able to escort and protect other ships but require protection themselves, it's insane what's going on in this country. Especially considering the current situation and development in Russia.

Sorry but I'm more than a little  :furious about this... it's like the 1930's all over again. Nobody have the balls to stand up against Russia.
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Re: Disbanded Regiment
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2008, 09:58:43 PM »
My Grandfather (Dad's side) was a member of the Stockholm Guard, before he went AWOL and joined the French Army in WWI. After mustering out of the French Army he joined the American Navy, still fighting the war, finally landing in New York.



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Re: Disbanded Regiment
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2008, 05:57:02 AM »
Bad as you think it is, Sweden is still well defended. The British only have about 110,000 in the army for 6 times the population. That's with a lot of overseas commitments which Sweden as a neutral does not have.

My old reserve unit was merged too and is now merely a renumbered company in an anonymous battalion. All the history gone.  If you think your defence forces are poorly served, look at mine. Poorly equipped naval service, not Navy. Eight small vessels to cover a huge coastline without a missile between them. The Air Corps has no fighters or attack aircraft and the helicopters are merely for training purposes having no operational capability. The Army has no tanks, very little armour and only about 10,000 soldiers.

Yes it could be worse.

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Re: Disbanded Regiment
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2008, 08:08:33 AM »
There is a general consensus among european politicians that Russia would never attack anyone, that the power-politics of the cold war is gone forever. This may be true within the EU and european states. Concerning Russia however there is plenty of evidence that suggest the opposite, like how the Georgian conflict was handled for one. Estonia was also put under heavy pressure last year as the statue honoring soviet solders of WW2 was relocated. A ethnic-russian minority was indirectly commanded from Moscow to carry out organized actions in estonia. Ukraine is also feeling the pressure as they are highly dependent on energy from their northern neighbor.

Russia IS playing the power-politics game, and is in the process of getting more and better military hardware to continue to do so. Furthermore, there is a widespread support to re-establish Russia as a superpower on the global scene. The russians want this, Putin is playing on that and it is his #1 priority make no mistake about it. He and the Kreml players care not for the HIV-epidemic spreading throughout their country, infrastructure, healthcare and education is all in the backseat on the road to re-establish mother Russia as a superpower. The fertility rates in Russia is about half of what is needed to maintain the current population. It's a major problem, perhaps the biggest problem Russia is facing in the near-future, yet it is quietly ignored.

European politicians do not want armed conflict. Well who can blame them because who in their right mind would? However, looking at the facts they tell us we should be very cautious. This indeed warrant a higher military capacity than currently found within the european states. Since military capacity is very expensive, no politician in their right mind want to suggest this, as it would be political suicide. So they play along, pretend it's all green grass and blue skies.

I'm afraid all of this will backfire on us (europeans) before it does on the russians. It smells very much like the 30's.


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Re: Disbanded Regiment
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2008, 12:17:56 PM »
Well look back 20 to 30 years ago and tell me you could have forcasted the world as it is today. The only thing I got right, as a young kid with a plastic rifle in hand, was that Islamic based terror was going to get far worse due to our weakness shown in Nov. '79. We had a bad, bad problem with terror back then too. Probably worse then today. I actually thought the Cold War would never end in my lifetime and it would end up a shooting war.

And 20 years from now? All I can say is that Russia has always been a totalitarian state driven by dreams of Empire and probably will continue to be. To make it worse the future will see energy reserves dwindling and Russia is chockful of the stuff. Already their natural gas reserves have much of eastern Europe by the short hairs.

On the other hand America and NATO is still strong. I dont think there is anyway Russia can challenge us in the foreseeable future. Not on a large scale. As they have always done I suspect they will use proxies to weaken and divide us. They are gifted strategic thinkers the Russians are. Its a mistake to underestimate them.

It would really be better if Sweden joined NATO. France was planning on official membership again soon and it would be best of all Democracies stood together. I hope this regiment is reconstituted soon if only for the pride of the country my grandparents came from.
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