Ju-88 armament: MG/FF

[Serenity]

This alone gives away the fact you don't once again have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Um, IIRC, Krusty hit the nail on the head there. The Luftwaffe was known for steep dives, and while the Ju-88 might not be so close to vertical as the Ju-87 in it's dives, without any experience or documentation, it would make sense that they would not bother utilizing internal ordinance when dive-bombing in Ju-88s.

[Charge]

You might want to take a look here: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?p=62483

There is no limitation not to take the internal ordnance if you have a gun equipped. If any evidence would emerge that they did not take internal ordnance when the cannon was equipped it could be a simple option for the same "position" in hangar so it would be either the cannon or level bombing sight and internal ordnance.

Also notice that unlike the "little Stuka" i.e. Ju87 the Ju88 does not have the bomb extraction rack to make the bombs drop past the propeller after the bomb was released making it quite impossible to release outside rack bombs in near vertical dive with speedbrakes on.

With a StuVi dive bombing sight the angle could be almost anything as long as you had speed so that the "pipper" would be visible at a sensible height just prior bomb release.

-C+

[Lusche]

It's a fact the bomb racks were vertical. Point the nose at the ground in a dive and what do you get? Racks perpendicular to the ground.

Spin/insult any way you want, in a near vertical dive bomb those bombs ain't exiting the plane and they sure as hell ain't landing where you want them to. That's what the external bomb mounts were for, IMO.

This is a part of a Ju-88 manual showing the dive bombing routine:



Under "Vorbereitungen für den Abwurf (Beobachter)" (Perparations for drop) it says: "(E) Bei Rumpfbombenabwurf: Bodenklappen aufkurbeln". Translated: When dropping fuselage bombs, open bomb bay doors"

[Wmaker]

It's a fact the bomb racks were vertical. Point the nose at the ground in a dive and what do you get? Racks perpendicular to the ground.

You keep insisting that the racks were vertical on the Ju-88A-4. Why don't you just check if that really were the case? You just keep assuming things and typing more and more disinformation as you go. There's a reason why HT introduced BS-meter with units in your name, you know.

I try not to insult people on this board or in the game but you've been told not to spread disinformation on this board over and over again and just don't get it and keep doing it. All I said that you didn't have the slightest clue what you were talking about. In this case it is just a fact, not an insult.

[Grendel]

Charge: I've always felt that is a drawback with the AH limitations, that the strafer -C is allowed drones.

Grendel: I'm sorry but you're wrong on that one. Ju88s and most LW dive bombers made near vertical dives. The vertical racks used to store the internal 50kg bombs (slung upside down, by the way) won't function in a near-vertical dive, as they are perpendicular to the ground.

I'm afraid your lack of knowledge of the Junkers 88 and how it was used quite clouds your judgement.

Dive bombing can be about any angle between 1-90 degrees. It does not need to be vertical dive. In fact, while Ju-88s could dive from vertical angles, that method was not used much. Instead Ju-88s bombed regularly in shallower angles, that might be described at times as glide bombing as well. Ju-87 bombed in vertical/near vertical dives, yes.

What other dive bombers did the Luftwaffe use, to go with your "most LW dive bombers" claim? We have here Ju-87 and Ju-88. Anything else?

But back to Ju-88. When Ju-88 is dive bombing, for example in 45 degrees dive, the bombs are released rather nicely from their racks in the bomb bay during the pullout, thank you. And the bombs happen to be horizontally in Ju-88 bomb bays, not vertically. Heinkel 111 was the only bomber in Luftwaffe arsenal, that had the bombs stored vertically.

Let's see also here, loose, shorted and rough translation from Junkers Ju 88 A-4 Pilot's Manual, part 12B, "Bomb equipment"

PULLOUT WITH BOMB RELEASE
When pushing the bomb release ubtton
1) magnetic switch acts
2) circuit by R203, R308, R556 and R559 switches closes
3) both (something)magnets' circuit closes
4) switch R500 acts and closes bomb serial release switch [bombs release]
Also now: dive breaks close and adjustment circuits close.
After adjustment circuits close, as the airplane is now pulling out of the dive, the internal bomb bay bombs begin dropping.

[Serenity]

This is a part of a Ju-88 manual showing the dive bombing routine:

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Under "Vorbereitungen für den Abwurf (Beobachter)" (Perparations for drop) it says: "(E) Bei Rumpfbombenabwurf: Bodenklappen aufkurbeln". Translated: When dropping fuselage bombs, open bomb bay doors"

Brilliant! Thank you! I stand corrected.