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Offline Masherbrum

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Re: Airshow Pics
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2009, 11:37:00 PM »
By bombing Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie two years later? Some 180 he did...

How's the Lutefisk Scholz?
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Re: Airshow Pics
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2009, 11:52:37 PM »
What?
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Re: Airshow Pics
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2009, 11:57:57 PM »
I didn't know anyone still flew those birds. Man I loved to see them coming over the house low level dodging the F4's in flight maneuvers when I was a kid.
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Re: Airshow Pics
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2009, 12:13:20 AM »
I didn't know anyone still flew those birds. Man I loved to see them coming over the house low level dodging the F4's in flight maneuvers when I was a kid.

This will be the last year for em.   Next year Australia is replacing their 111's with Super Hornets.   :(
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Re: Airshow Pics
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2009, 12:17:19 PM »
By bombing Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie two years later? Some 180 he did...

lockerbie had a lot more to do with iran...and a little less to do with libya than most realize.  libya only signed off on compensating victims as a stop gap measure to evade all of their frozen assets being taken away. yes......the speed and enormity of their 180 has been impressive.
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Re: Airshow Pics
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2009, 01:48:14 PM »
Nice conspiracy theory you got there.

"The motive that is generally attributed to Libya can be traced back to a series of military confrontations with the US Navy that took place in the 1980s in the Gulf of Sidra, the whole of which Libya claimed as its territorial waters. First, there was the Gulf of Sidra incident (1981) when two Libyan fighter aircraft were shot down. Then, two Libyan radio ships were sunk in the Gulf of Sidra. Later, on 23 March 1986 a Libyan Navy patrol boat was sunk in the Gulf of Sidra, followed by the sinking of another Libyan vessel on 25 March 1986. The Libyan leader, Muammar al-Gaddafi, was accused of retaliating to these sinkings by ordering the 5 April 1986 bombing of West Berlin nightclub, La Belle, that was frequented by U.S. soldiers and which killed three and injured 230.

CIA's alleged interception of an incriminatory message from Libya to its embassy in East Berlin provided U.S. president Ronald Reagan with the justification for USAF warplanes to launch Operation El Dorado Canyon on 15 April 1986 from British bases—the first U.S. military strikes from Britain since World War II—against Tripoli and Benghazi in Libya. Among dozens of Libyan military and civilian casualties, the air strikes killed Hanna Gaddafi, a baby girl Gaddafi said he adopted. To avenge his daughter's death, Gaddafi is said to have sponsored the September 1986 hijacking of Pan Am Flight 73 in Karachi, Pakistan."


16 years later...


"On 29 May 2002, Libya offered up to US$2.7 billion to settle claims by the families of the 270 killed in the Lockerbie bombing, representing US$10 million per family. The Libyan offer was that:

    * 40% of the money would be released when United Nations sanctions, suspended in 1999, were canceled;
    * another 40% when U.S. trade sanctions were lifted; and
    * the final 20% when the U.S. State Department removed Libya from its list of states sponsoring terrorism.

Compensation for the families of the PA103 victims was among the steps set by the UN for lifting its sanctions against Libya. Other requirements included a formal denunciation of terrorism—which Libya said it had already made—and "accepting responsibility for the actions of its officials"."


It was a business deal.
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Re: Airshow Pics
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2009, 07:03:24 PM »
Heres the ejection Module....Really Cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8l79lSjVMg

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Re: Airshow Pics
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2009, 08:44:19 PM »
It was a business deal.


glad you agree with me.  it certainly was.

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Re: Airshow Pics
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2009, 07:27:00 PM »
Yes ZetaNine, thank you for agreeing that the 1986 bombing of Libya had no positive effect.
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