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Offline bozon

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Re: November 10, 1943 - Cairo
« Reply #90 on: November 13, 2009, 02:21:18 AM »
Fighters are what you and I and most of the purists hold dear but kids dont look at it that way. This is why you get so many kids in the game that will come back time after time strafing the CV and dive bombing GVs with Lancs. You dont understand it (obviously) and I dont either but this is what they want... the B-29.
So your argument is that the B29 is needed for the squeekers to suicide dive bomb the CV with better efficiency? Excellent idea.
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Re: November 10, 1943 - Cairo
« Reply #91 on: November 13, 2009, 03:31:04 PM »
So your argument is that the B29 is needed for the squeekers to suicide dive bomb the CV with better efficiency? Excellent idea.

I am not surprised you would think that but the obvious answer is only someone that has been on line for a few months (and bombing ALOT) would have the perks to even try it. I know you have not been paying attention over the course of the B-29 threads past (again... obviously) as I have always said I thought the first bomber should be free and drones should be perked. Also... what I have already said in the thread holds true. Guns should be removed on everything but the tail on low fuel bombers. Why would someone use a B-29 when they can lancstuka already and have guns too (or B-24 or B-26 or B-17)? The B-29 is so fast and (in a dive) will pick up speed so fast that dive bombing is not survivable (I believe).

There was a case in Japan where the B-29s hit a munitions dump from 8k. One B-29 was right over a major blast and was blown up to 13k and rolled inverted. Before the plane recovered it was at 3k and only the pilot was still conscious. Food for thought.
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Re: November 10, 1943 - Cairo
« Reply #92 on: November 13, 2009, 06:18:29 PM »
Bombers are big, slow (relative to fighters), and unmanuverable aircraft. Adding one that had 6k more bombs than the lanc, and is faster won't kill the game play. I've got 100$ says you all didn't whine this much when they added the 262. You all act like its untouchable, while the P-47's (all of them) are about 100mph faster than the B-29, and many other fighters can catch them. And as someone stated in another thread, they wouldn't even be able to make it up to 30k with a full bomb load and still go anywhere.
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Re: November 10, 1943 - Cairo
« Reply #93 on: November 13, 2009, 06:20:13 PM »
Bombers are big, slow (relative to fighters), and unmanuverable aircraft. Adding one that had 6k more bombs than the lanc, and is faster won't kill the game play. I've got 100$ says you all didn't whine this much when they added the 262. You all act like its untouchable, while the P-47's (all of them) are about 100mph faster than the B-29, and many other fighters can catch them. And as someone stated in another thread, they wouldn't even be able to make it up to 30k with a full bomb load and still go anywhere.
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Re: November 10, 1943 - Cairo
« Reply #94 on: November 13, 2009, 06:25:59 PM »
Bombers are big, slow (relative to fighters), and unmanuverable aircraft. Adding one that had 6k more bombs than the lanc, and is faster won't kill the game play. I've got 100$ says you all didn't whine this much when they added the 262. You all act like its untouchable, while the P-47's (all of them) are about 100mph faster than the B-29, and many other fighters can catch them. And as someone stated in another thread, they wouldn't even be able to make it up to 30k with a full bomb load and still go anywhere.

Bolded section, I'm adressing everyone opposed to the B-29 for reasons of "it would kill the gameplay". Everything else is just aimed at everyone who opposes the B-29 for other various reasons.
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Re: November 10, 1943 - Cairo
« Reply #95 on: November 15, 2009, 01:42:50 PM »
<----Opposed to it simply due to the fact that it would add nothing to the game except for an uber bomber in the main arenas...that is not to say it would not have its place but as of right now it has as much use as the P-47M. I don't see any of you "pro B-29" fanboiz asking for any actual useful bombers that could be used somewhere besides the main arenas for your own little niche of what you feel is useful.

I also don't see a 100 people jumping on your bandwagon asking for the B-29 in this or any of the previous threads started on it...if it's that much of a poplular notion, where is the popular support? Doesn't exist any more than Chalanges notion that it would help HTC increae revenue.
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Re: November 10, 1943 - Cairo
« Reply #96 on: November 18, 2009, 06:21:26 PM »
My bet is most stay away because these things turn into slugging matches. Not a whole lot of support for your "it would add nothing" notion. Seems to be split pretty evenly.
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Re: November 10, 1943 - Cairo
« Reply #97 on: November 18, 2009, 09:39:27 PM »
<----Opposed to it simply due to the fact that it would add nothing to the game except for an uber bomber in the main arenas...that is not to say it would not have its place but as of right now it has as much use as the P-47M. I don't see any of you "pro B-29" fanboiz asking for any actual useful bombers that could be used somewhere besides the main arenas for your own little niche of what you feel is useful.

I also don't see a 100 people jumping on your bandwagon asking for the B-29 in this or any of the previous threads started on it...if it's that much of a poplular notion, where is the popular support? Doesn't exist any more than Chalanges notion that it would help HTC increae revenue.


Quoted for BS factor... Look... the B-29 served in large numbers in the Pacific and served for two years with distinction. The B-29 was in the planning stages before the B-17 (bet you didnt know that)! The B-29 would also open scenarios to new possibilities just like any other bomber. The B-29 would also teach noobs not to attack bombers from the tail... EVER.

I dont know when the first B-29 post was and it really doesnt matter but I bet it had some suggestion attached to the  bomber concerning the NUKE. I think its the nuke that is the bad idea and not the bomber. Why are you afraid of the B-29 gyreene? Make no mistake it is fear because in all honesty there is no viable reason (anymore) to keep the B-29 out of the game! I mean answer the question honestly what major problem is the B-29 going to cause? Is it too heavy for the runways we have? NO. Are the guns too powerful? NO. Is the payload too big? NO. Is it too fast for most planes? Maybe thats what has you worried?  Maybe you like the P-39 and you wont get B-29 kills and you feel left out? Thats why Hitech gave you the P-47M you know... its compensation.  :D

Yes I think the B-29 is 'cool' and so do a lot of people that 'dont line up on the BBS' for the same reason a lot of users dont even post on the BBS. Its true that the things that make the B-29 cool will not translate to online because online just does not model things like pressurized compartments and radar bombing and directed gun controllers (yes ala Millenium Falcon) but what really makes this airplane cool is something Tibbets himself discovered while training in the B-29 (quite by accident). At 30000 feet the B-29 will out turn a P-47. And for that reason alone it will hold the top cool factor for bombers online.
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Re: November 10, 1943 - Cairo
« Reply #98 on: November 18, 2009, 10:04:53 PM »
OH CHIT!!! I can't wait do dog fight some P-47 stick in my B-29. Thats one of the more likelier planes to meet that high as well. Bet it'll piss off the P-47's who try to attack from behind.
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