Author Topic: N1 Flaps?  (Read 242 times)

Offline Bullethead

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N1 Flaps?
« on: October 23, 1999, 09:27:00 AM »
I guess this is in the same general vein as the discussion on L/E slots....

It's my understanding that the N1 had a rather advanced (by WW2 standards) system for automatic control of its maneuvering flaps.  So, how is AH gonna handle this?  Is the effect of the autoflap system incorporated into the plane's basic flight model or is it left out entirely?

If the autoflap thing IS in the flight model, how will it interact with manual flap operation?  Will manual flap operation even be possible?

I'm curious because AW's N1 has both the automatic flaps in the flight model numbers (ie, not accessible to the pilot) AND normal manual flap control.  This leads to some VERY strange effects if you use the manual flaps in regimes where the autoflaps are working, such as a huge nose DOWN AoA with manual flaps at combat speeds, control lock-up, etc.

One thing I do think is pretty cool about AW's N1 autoflaps, however, is that they seem to keep you from bleeding down below 200 IAS in hard turns.  The plane slows to 200 and then stays there, shaking like a junkie in withdrawal.  I've been told this is because at 200, the autoflaps close to reduce drag and help speed get back above 200, but when this happens and you still have G on, they come out again, slowing you down again.  I don't know if this is accurate, but it seems plausible and makes a nice effect.  Will AH have anything like this happening?

Thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 1999, 11:40:00 AM »
It probably depends on what test data they had.

I'm guessing the data is pretty good, because the RAE, USAF, and Pax River all had Georges.

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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 1999, 11:56:00 AM »
BH: The automatic flap deployment mechanism will not be modeled.  You'll have to drop them manually.

Funked: It's probably out there, but I've never come across them.


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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 1999, 01:29:00 AM »
Pyro, I'll be at the USAF Museum next Saturday, where do you want the George delivered?  

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 1999, 08:15:00 AM »
Damn funked, I wish you had picked a different weekend  

I live about 4 hours from Dayton, and would have loved to meet you guys there for a tour of the Museum.

Alas, I have to travel 6 hours in the opposite direction next weekend to visit my girlfriend in Eastern PA.

Last summer when I was there, their N1K2-J was in the restoration shop and not available for Public display :-(

Bring me back some good pics.



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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 1999, 02:47:00 AM »
Vermillion, sorry you can't make it!

I will get some good pics for sure though.

I think you are right - the George is still in the shop.  It will be nice to see what they do with it, because it was not bad at all in unrestored form.  It might look real sharp.

Also they have a new Me 109G-10 that I can't wait to see!