What is the AvA schedule for June 2010?

[Reschke]

Do you want us to run nothing but North Africa and Italy setups until we know for sure whether or not HTC will allow new maps that are not made by members of the "map team"?

The only Africa terrain that works right now is Tunisia and it's barely workable for ground battles...it's much more conducive to dogfighting and strategic bombing.

Where did you even come up with that out of what I wrote in my comment? Geez you guys get so dang defensive about these things it seems. I simply stated that we used to have a "good terrain". NO WHERE DID I SAY run nothing but North Africa and Italy setups. Also I seriously doubt you will get maps approved for online usage in short order unless they come from the terrain team. From what I remember it was also a great GV battle terrain since that is what happened for the large majority of that part of the war.

Now since you brought up a point about bombing in North Africa...specifically Tunisia here is what I have on the matter. (http://www.usaaf.net/ww/vol6/vol6pg16.htm)

If you read your history about that stretch of the war there was nothing truly spectacular or particularly "strategic" about the bombing happening there. Yes the USAAF employed the same bombers but they flew more sorties each day against the same locations due to the relatively short distances and the fact that the battles were being waged in the same areas for those areas being bombed. While they did hit locally strategic points it was more in the vein of tactical air that they knew how to use back in that time frame. They didn't really have aircraft on station being called in on targets like we do in this day and age.

[gyrene81]

I'm not being defensive. I have no reason to be at this point. I just asked a question based on the notion that you probably have not examined the available terrains in the view of "historical setup" for use in the AvA. Right now we have 1 working map that suits the Africa campaign...Tunisia...and it has some glaring holes in it for ground war. The best area appeared to be in the N.W. corner but without being careful about initial base ownership, the setup would allow only limited ground engagements.


The Italy and Greece maps have similar "holes" in the vehicle spawn points.

My version of "strategic" bombing is having strats involved in the setup to emulate the destruction of not just bases but also cities and supplies by bombers that occurred frequently in many battles, not the USAAF strategic bombing initiative version. It would require the setup to include air bases positioned several grid sectors from the "front lines" that only have bombers activated which would need to coordinate with fighters out of other bases for escort if it's needed based on player participation.

But then any setup that I would propose would be more geared toward cooperative effort than just furballing or tank brawling.

[TheBug]

It would require the setup to include air bases position several grid sectors from the "front lines" that only have bombers activated which would need to coordinate with fighters out of other bases for escort.

The setup would do that??  That's amazing!!

Here I was relying on the players.

[gyrene81]

The setup would do that??  That's amazing!!

Here I was relying on the players.

Fixed Bug...don't bug me. 

[Reschke]

I guess the "glaring" holes that you see are not there for me to see because unlike other twitchy players or spawn campers I would rather in a GV fight see a manuever warfare type of thing happen. Sure you could end up driving for a few minutes just to die in the opening salvo from the bad guys or you could drive into an ambush but why is that a problem. It is certainly a lot better than spawning in somewhere just for some dipdunk ultra melon to twitch shoot you as soon as you spawn. That isn't even quasi-historical no matter what the setup is.

[gyrene81]

I guess the "glaring" holes that you see are not there for me to see because unlike other twitchy players or spawn campers I would rather in a GV fight see a manuever warfare type of thing happen. Sure you could end up driving for a few minutes just to die in the opening salvo from the bad guys or you could drive into an ambush but why is that a problem. It is certainly a lot better than spawning in somewhere just for some dipdunk ultra melon to twitch shoot you as soon as you spawn. That isn't even quasi-historical no matter what the setup is.

How long are you willing to "maneuver" to get into that fight and have a "dipdunk ultra melon twich shoot" you? 20 minutes, 30 minutes, 45 minutes? Take a look again and think about how long it takes to get to a base on most of the MA maps in a Panzer or Tiger...then look at the locations of a lot of those spawn points, especially the ones that go nowhere. Personaly if I'm doing the gv thing, I don't mind going for as long as the fuel and ammo lasts but that's not like most players.