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Offline SmokinLoon

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Aircraft w/ Smoke Screen Ordnance???
« on: August 30, 2010, 12:12:41 AM »
Im a gamblin' man and somewhere in WWII I'm sure there was a situation in which aircraft dropped smoke laying ordnance to help ground forces advance/retreat/maneuver.  That got me thinking that if we had that capability in AH the ground war could be a very different experience, especially for both attackers and defenders.

I posted this here because if it is true... I'd like that option to drop smoke.   :)   
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Re: Aircraft w/ Smoke Screen Ordnance???
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2010, 12:15:07 AM »
in ah it would be more useful to use smoke to mark gv's, rather than to help them get away.  besides gv's can already drop their own smoke.


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Re: Aircraft w/ Smoke Screen Ordnance???
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2010, 02:31:01 PM »
+1, I'm all for it, adds to strategic game play. Also I remember reading about how with some of the fire raids in japan, the target would be marked out as a giant flaming X by using two fighters and napalm. I'm assuming they also did that with smoke as well.

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Re: Aircraft w/ Smoke Screen Ordnance???
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2010, 02:37:46 PM »
Well, since GV's can already lay down smoke to cover a retreat, advance, or maneuver, I feel that time could be better spent elsewhere.


As to the target marking thing, here's what I see happening: "Just put smoke on a tiger. He's got the left...... damn, he's moving". I can't believe I'm saying this, but..... the time spent flying to a GV fight would be better spent carrying ordnance rather than smoke.
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Re: Aircraft w/ Smoke Screen Ordnance???
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2010, 02:52:09 PM »
forgot use 2 37 rounds into the back of a tank, self-smoke canister is released.


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Re: Aircraft w/ Smoke Screen Ordnance???
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 02:57:31 PM »
B-25 laying down a smokescreen.

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Re: Aircraft w/ Smoke Screen Ordnance???
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 10:16:12 PM »
B-25 laying down a smokescreen.

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WOW.  Thanks for posting that.  A smoke screen like that would be one heck of a prelude to a T34 tank rush on a defended position.   :D 

I didn't think aircraft actually laid smoke screens but rather used ords (bombs or rockets) meant for marking purposes or to help ground forces maneuver.

If they had them... then why not allow them to be used?  One could assume that since the smoke is already coded, and the ord is already coded, that the implementation would not be all that time consuming???   
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Re: Aircraft w/ Smoke Screen Ordnance???
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2010, 12:15:31 AM »
 
I didn't think aircraft actually laid smoke screens but rather used ords (bombs or rockets) meant for marking purposes or to help ground forces maneuver.

Here's some smoke markers. Don't know whether or not they were ever used for coordinating ground forces



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Re: Aircraft w/ Smoke Screen Ordnance???
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2010, 03:34:56 AM »
Here's some smoke markers. Don't know whether or not they were ever used for coordinating ground forces



smoke markers were used for training purposes.  navy planes also used them for practice. on the ground they would use gv's for smoke screens.  or they would use cruisers (i think) for smoke screens on water. 


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Re: Aircraft w/ Smoke Screen Ordnance???
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2010, 09:22:50 PM »
if you look at the PT boat we have in game there IS a smoke canister near the rear,cant remember who posted but HiTech replied saying he was thinking about actually making the canister work or somthing like that
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Re: Aircraft w/ Smoke Screen Ordnance???
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2010, 09:45:11 PM »
I'm all for it. Although, I don't think people would be using it for retreats/advances but more for marking Gv's. +1 here
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Re: Aircraft w/ Smoke Screen Ordnance???
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2010, 10:17:18 PM »
I posted this here because if it is true... I'd like that option to drop smoke.   :)  

 ....and so would I

"The Boomerang."
It could carry 4 20lb smoke bombs under the wings.

Plus it would add another countrys plane.

"It was very well-armed, with two 20 mm cannon and four .303 calibre (7.7 mm) machine guns, all mounted in the short, thick wings. The Boomerang was also generously equipped with armour plating to protect the pilot."



"As No. 4 and No. 5 Squadrons RAAF received their Boomerang fighters, however the pilots discovered they were excellent close support aircraft. In New Guinea, these Boomerang fighters performed bombing, strafing, and artillery spotting missions with great success."

"The Boomerang was flown by Nos. 4, 5, 83, 84 and 85 Squadrons RAAF in a home-defence role, undertaking escort duties for shipping convoys and in operations against the Japanese. It excelled in low-level army cooperation work over the New Guinea jungles, tasks which included directing artillery fire, marking targets for P-40 Kittyhawks and Corsair aircraft and providing aerial protection for ground troops."

"No. 4 Squadron and No. 5 Squadron flew Boomerangs in New Guinea, the Solomon Islands Campaign and Borneo Campaign, also in the close support role, with marked success. Flying in pairs (one to observe the ground, the other to observe the air around them), their tasks included bombing, strafing, close infantry support and artillery spotting. When attacking larger enemy formations Boomerangs often operated in conjunction with larger aircraft. In this role the Boomerang would get in close to confirm the identity of the target and mark it with a 20 lb (9 kg) smoke bomb with the "cooperating" aircraft delivering the major ordnance from a safer distance. The partnership between 5 Squadron Boomerangs and Royal New Zealand Air Force Corsair fighter bombers during the Bougainville Campaign was said to be particularly effective."




This would be my pick,
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« Last Edit: September 01, 2010, 10:46:02 PM by Megalodon »
Okay..Add 2 Country's at once, Australia and France next plane update Add ...CAC Boomerang and the Dewoitine D.520