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Offline Major Biggles

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Re: What to say???
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2012, 09:42:35 PM »
Ban the guns and the nuts will just find other means to do bad stuff with. Then we keep banning stuff until we are all armed with blenders or other household appliances. Problem wasn't what he had in his hands it was what he had in his head and in his heart. I couldn't fathom what kind of "shut off" a person like that hasto do bad stuff to kids could have. It seems these people just keep trying to out do each other. Pretty sick.

Agreed but if you are unarmed it's easier to stop a guy with a knife than it is with an automatic weapon. It was a similar shooting to this that led to the banning of handguns in the UK. I'd never suggest banning handguns but limiting their use to those deemed mentally capable and safe is surely a reasonable option?


Like I say I'm a Brit so this isn't my issue. I'll try to keep out of this from now on. Know that the world's sympathies are with your communities at this awful time <S>

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Offline Hoarach

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Re: What to say???
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2012, 09:47:15 PM »
He didnt even buy the guns as that is mentioned above.

His mom bought the guns.  His mom gave him the guns.  The same guns the he used to kill himself, his mother, and those at the school.
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Re: What to say???
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2012, 09:48:22 PM »
TEARS! tears! tears!   
In the night, in solitude, tears;   
On the white shore dripping, dripping, suck’d in by the sand;   
Tears—not a star shining—all dark and desolate;   
Moist tears from the eyes of a muffled head:            5
—O who is that ghost?—that form in the dark, with tears?   
What shapeless lump is that, bent, crouch’d there on the sand?   
Streaming tears—sobbing tears—throes, choked with wild cries;   
O storm, embodied, rising, careering, with swift steps along the beach;   
O wild and dismal night storm, with wind! O belching and desperate!     10
O shade, so sedate and decorous by day, with calm countenance and regulated pace;   
But away, at night, as you fly, none looking—O then the unloosen’d ocean,   
Of tears! tears! tears!

Offline RotBaron

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Re: What to say???
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2012, 12:55:37 AM »
TOO SOON!

Impossible to make suggestions about what could have been done until all the facts are in. At best it's speculation and will probably be erroneous.

Focus on the sadness and tragedy. I know young children that were in lockdown at school today one town away from Newtown CT, I'm much more concerned at the moment about their (and those affected) mental well-being.

Furthermore, talking about gun laws is politics, which correct me if I'm wrong, but is not allowed here.  

My prayers to those affected.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2012, 01:10:08 AM by RotBaron »
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Re: What to say???
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2012, 01:03:21 AM »
Amazing.  20 kids died today and the discussion is more concerned with protecting the guns.

Focus on those that died and their families.    

Leave the gun discussion for later.

I wish we could. I first became aware of this by someone chatting about it on AH this morning. When I logged I went into Facebook and read a dozen or more posts calling for an end to the 2nd Amendment, ban the NRA, etc. What I fully predict and with almost a 100% certainty of being right, two actually: One, this person will have had a known, document history of mental illness. Second, the shooter broke dozens of laws in place already.

Sad, but this is the nature of discussion in America.

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Re: What to say???
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2012, 02:02:14 AM »
I'm surprised every school in US isn't already equipped with armed guards. Why the principal and the psychologist ran to the corridor to face the armed attacker instead of an armed guard?
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Re: What to say???
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2012, 02:39:08 AM »
I'm surprised every school in US isn't already equipped with armed guards. Why the principal and the psychologist ran to the corridor to face the armed attacker instead of an armed guard?

Almost all middle schools and high schools have a police officer assigned to them.  Elementary schools not so much.  Middle school and high school students more likely to have a violent episode during school, hence the cop is available to stop the fight through various means.
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Offline Blooz

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Re: What to say???
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2012, 03:08:25 AM »
Tens of millions of gun owners in the United States DIDN'T kill anyone yesterday.
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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2012, 03:31:17 AM »
Tens of millions of gun owners in the United States DIDN'T kill anyone yesterday.

I'm sure that argument will soothe the parents whose kids didn't come home that day.
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Re: What to say???
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2012, 06:24:14 AM »
I think it despicable for anyone to use this tragedy as a platform for gun reform.  Last warning.  Anyone trying to do so will be banned from this board.  It is not only a violation of the forum posting rules, but it is also violation of common decency.
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