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Offline eagl

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Aviation physiology
« on: September 24, 2013, 04:04:30 AM »
Anyone interested in real aviation physiology ought to read this article.  It's about the effects of altitude on the human body, and it is extremely thorough.  The material is roughly equivalent to the training military pilots receive on the same subject, although military pilots also get recurring altitude chamber training to help them understand and predict the effects in flight.

http://www.avweb.com/news/aeromed/181893-1.html?redirected=1

This sort of education has saved my life 2-3 times, and not understanding it has killed countless pilots.
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Offline Scherf

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Re: Aviation physiology
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2013, 06:02:37 AM »
Thanks for the link.
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Re: Aviation physiology
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 11:00:03 AM »
read that article a couple times over the years its a great one.


can you indulge us with some hypoxia encounters you mentioned eagl?
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Offline jigsaw

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Re: Aviation physiology
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2013, 01:39:13 AM »
FAA offers trips to the barometric chamber so you can experience the effects for real and learn your own symptoms. It's a great program that anyone flying should try to take advantage of, but I think they've shut down a lot of the locations it used to be available at.

http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/airman_education/aerospace_physiology/

I've been twice. One on my own at Edwards right after getting my PPL and again at Williams (IWA) as part of my IA training through a flight school.
Symptoms are different for most people. One of my alerts is that my face will start feeling hot. At the Edwards session they simulated an explosive decompression at the end.

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Re: Aviation physiology
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2013, 10:42:27 PM »
One hypoxia event, I remember approaching the IAF on a high penetration and feeling a bit warm and tingly.  Since it was a nice sunny day in the T-37, I figured I was just getting warm.  Which was dumb, because I was at 19,000 ft and normally you have to have the heater on at that alt.  In any case, I started the approach and the whole way down on the outbound leg, my focus and cross check kept returning to the compass because I couldn't remember if I had turned inbound or not.  That's when I finally figured it out, through the haze of the hypoxia, that something was wrong.  We descended and the fog lifted after about 15 minutes below 10,000 ft.  Turns out the oxygen regulator had failed.

Ever since then, my first hypoxia symptoms have remained constant, a warm skin feeling sort of like sitting just inside a window in direct sunlight, with slight tingling especially in the hands.

Another time, I had an air conditioner turbine in the T-38 come apart just before takeoff, filling the cockpit with toxic smoke.  We considered going to a spare aircraft but even 30 minutes after the event I still felt my hypoxia symptoms so we went to the hospital instead.  My blood O2 was just a bit below normal but they doc said that I probably absorbed a bunch of carbon monoxide and other chemicals like cyanide that interfere with blood oxygen transfer and transport, so I got an overnight stay in the hospital.  If I hadn't recognized the symptoms, I might have re-attempted the flight the same day and who knows how bad my G tolerance or air pressure tolerance would have been.  It was planned as a very strenuous air to air formation training sortie, so flying it while degraded in that way could have been a disastrous choice.
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Re: Aviation physiology
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2013, 11:27:38 AM »
The certificate holder I've been working with for over 5 years now puts a huge emphasis on recognizing the symptoms of hypoxia because so many things can cause problems for the wide variety of people you'll be moving around.  The first thing for me is the tip of my nose goes numb, which is the same thing that happens when I start to get a good buzz going on at a bar.  I can't see it happening but my cheeks will also get red when I start to get hypoxic but if I'm flying with someone new I'll take a moment to bring it up.

We (collectively) talk to the dive doctors regularly and every now and then have to get someone to a chamber but not just for diving related issues.  There's no real down side to getting this type of training.

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Re: Aviation physiology
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2013, 04:28:18 PM »
There's no real down side to getting this type of training.

Well, the occasional fatal embolism or stroke is a negative in some people's opinion, but the risk is pretty low for someone fit enough to be a pilot.  Still, some people shouldn't leave sea level.

Neighbor of mine just died...  He had a staph infection, then a mild heart attack while in the hospital for the infection.  They checked and he needed a triple bypass, but couldn't operate right away due to the infection.  So they put him on blood thinners to help delay the next heart attack, and the thinners probably contributed to the stroke and brain hemorrhage that killed him later that night.  2 days from checking in to checking out for good.  That guy didn't need to be in any sort of altitude or pressure anything.
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