no ordnance

[JimmyC]

When you click on ordnance in the hanger and ords are down...
You get that message..then you have to deselect the ords and click the mouse on each and every message
cant it be possible to ghost out the ords..or not let you select them or make it more fluid in some way
Its a pet peev but just feels laboured and could be more fluid. .
anyway..just my wish
Thank you...
carry on chaps
《S》 Jimmy

[Fish42]

+1

Yes, a grayed out ords, and a message that only pops up next to your mouse when you hover over the ords and when you move away would just fade out in 2-3 sec. It would clean up the UI.

Also if you select a plane that has carried bombs in the pass and the ords are down, your plane would simply not load up the bombs (it will default to a non-ord load-out. If there is no Ordless load out then a message will display indicating that "Aircraft is unable to takeoff without ordnance. Ordnance Bunkers are down at this field"). A message will display to warn of this removal, but will not need to be clicked to clear.

Same for fuel/troops/supplies.

[Blinder]

+1  The current set up is rather annoying so here here!

[VonMessa]

I will agree. 

[Someguy63]

+1

[CeeEff]

Agreed

[Aspen]

+1  I'm ok with deselecting ords, but having to close each message window bugs me a little for some reason.

[SmokinLoon]

and when they adjust that, I think this would be a great time for HTC to implement the new ordnance system.  Meaning, when 50% of the ord bunkers are down = no heavy ords (500lb and higher disabled but anything less = available), and when all ord bunkers are down = no ords.  Oh, and increase the hardness to 1012 lbs, too.  That way a SINGLE 1000 bomb wont be enough to destroy an ord bunker but a pair of 500 lbs will.   

Heck, while HTC is at it now would be a good time to change up the hardness of all the OBJ to bring them more in line with what they are.

Barracks = 156 lbs.
Fuel tanks = 562 lbs.
Radar = 820 lbs.
Ord bunkers = 1012 lbs.
Town buildings = Varied from 156 lbs. to 562 lbs.

 

[Randy1]

+1

Either that or a pop up note that disappears after a few seconds.

[Aspen]

That way a SINGLE 1000 bomb wont be enough to destroy an ord bunker but a pair of 500 lbs will.  

2, 500 pound bombs would kill a 1012 pound object?  Or is that a typo?  I'm not really sure I understand how much damage a certain weight bomb dispenses.

[SmokinLoon]

2, 500 pound bombs would kill a 1012 pound object?  Or is that a typo?  I'm not really sure I understand how much damage a certain weight bomb dispenses.

Not a typo-  2/500 lbs bombs deliver more damage than 1/1000 lb bomb.  For everyone's benefit, I'll list out the bomb damage below (the ones I've tested, at least):

GP Bomb wt. = lbs in damage
100 lb= 156 lbs
250 lb= 312 lbs
500 lb= 562 lbs
1000 lb = 1000 lbs
1600 lb (AP) = 2061 lbs
2000 lb = 1718 lbs
4000 lb (HC) =3125 lbs

GP Bomb wt = lbs in damage
50kg = 172 lbs
60kg = 206 lbs
100 kg = 275 lbs
250 kg = 618 lbs
500 kg =1100 lbs
800 kg = 1443 lbs
1000 kg = 2835 lbs
1800 kg = 2403 lbs

Keep in mind the following:
1> An AP bomb does 150% of the GP bomb damage, but only has 20% of the blast radius (DON'T MISS!).
2> An SAP bomb does 125% of the GP bomb damage, but only 33% of the splash area (DON'T MISS!)
3> An HC bomb does 75% of the GP bomb weight damage, but has 125% of the splash area (can be slightly tipsy when used).

Oh, and for good measure here are the air to ground rockets:
US 4.5 inch = 125 lbs (HE), same as on the M4/75mm Calliope.
US 5in HVAR = 156 lbs (HE)
USSR RS82 = 93 lbs (HE)
USSR RS132 = 125 lbs (HE)
British 60 Pdr = 187 lbs (SAP/HE)  
German Pb1 = 93 lbs (anti-armor!)

EDIT:  This information was also given to the AH Trainer's to use on their website.  But alas.....

[Lucifer]

+1

Why not...

[Mongoose]

  Not so fast.  I, myself would not want ords to automatically be deselected.  I know it would be quicker in most situations, but...

  The other day, I knew that the ord bunker would be up in about a minute.  So I selected bombs and rockets, and waited.  I was able to launch about three seconds after ords were available. 

  So make a pop up to deselect all ords at once, but don't make it so you can't select ords when they are down.

[JimmyC]

Good thinking
How about if you deselect ords you dont have to click the message..The message just goes away
Some times that message is still up when im rollin down the runway..