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190-A5 altimiter bug?
« on: July 05, 2014, 08:55:04 PM »
Hello,
I'm new here, recently migrated over from WarBirds.
I like this new environment. It looks like a great gaming area.
Forgive me if this has already been reported. I did a search and didn't see anything posted.

One of my favorite rides in WarBirds was the FW-190. I took one up today and was trying to make sense of the altimeter...







According to the specs in the hanger (and consistent with my previous experience in 190's), at full power they'll climb about 2500-3000 ft/minute. After 7 minutes they should be around 17,000 to 21,000 feet (5300 to 6400 meters).

It looks to me like the gauge is displaying Imperial units - I believe it's reading 18,500 which is exactly the altitude I'd expect after such a climb.

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« Last Edit: July 05, 2014, 08:56:36 PM by wetcat »
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Re: 190-A5 altimiter bug?
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2014, 09:11:33 PM »
It looks to me like the gauge is displaying Imperial units


Hello Wetcat and welcome to AH,


yes they are. All measurements in AH (and thus instrumentsin all planes) are standardised to US measurements. Altimeter is showing ~100 ft in the firs, ~ 200ft in the second picture, the last one indeed about 18,500ft.
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Re: 190-A5 altimiter bug?
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2014, 10:45:22 PM »
Thank you for the prompt response.
Why does Aces High display cockpit information in Imperial units in aircraft that never used those units?
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Re: 190-A5 altimiter bug?
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2014, 10:56:41 PM »
Thank you for the prompt response.
Why does Aces High display cockpit information in Imperial units in aircraft that never used those units?

That was a deliberate game design decision by the game designer mainly to avoid confusion in communication. In the MA, Axis and Allied planes are mixed on every side, so some players giving altitude readouts in m while others use feet was considered to be too confusing.
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Re: 190-A5 altimiter bug?
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2014, 11:04:53 PM »
Very good, I understand. Thank you for the quick response! <S>
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Re: 190-A5 altimiter bug?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2014, 08:00:02 AM »

Hello Wetcat and welcome to AH,


yes they are. All measurements in AH (and thus instrumentsin all planes) are standardised to US measurements. Altimeter is showing ~100 ft in the firs, ~ 200ft in the second picture, the last one indeed about 18,500ft.

I believe it's actually 2,000 feet in the second, as it's the red needle, not the white, that's pointing to the 2.

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Re: 190-A5 altimiter bug?
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2014, 08:16:47 AM »
I believe it's actually 2,000 feet in the second, as it's the red needle, not the white, that's pointing to the 2.

You are correct and I was not  :aok
« Last Edit: July 06, 2014, 08:21:39 AM by Lusche »
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Re: 190-A5 altimiter bug?
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2014, 02:25:08 AM »
If the gauge was simply historical, noone would be lost in the altimiter... :neener:


KMpH for Germans, MPH  for US/GB plz !  :old:

We euro players would -really- appreciate  :)

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Re: 190-A5 altimiter bug?
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2014, 03:57:04 AM »
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We euro players would -really- appreciate  :)

Not sure about it at all. Actually having unified units helps.

For example some of MA rides:

- La-7, Yak-3 (all russuan) - km/h, km, attitude -> bank angle
- Fw 190D, 109.. (all German) - km/h, km, attitude -> horizon
- P-51D, P-47, Spitfire... (all USAAF, RAF) - mph, feet, attitude -> horizon
- F6F, F4U, Seafire, Seahurricane (USN, FAA)-> knots, feet, attitude -> horizon

I fly mostly Yak-3, Spitfire XVI, 190D and F4U...

I'll likely go crazy with all these differences. If we were flying same plane or at lease planes of the same service all the time it wouldn't be a problem. But in AH where you switch planes frequently... it is actually much better to have unified flight instruments.

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Re: 190-A5 altimiter bug?
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2014, 05:24:07 PM »
We are used to KMH*meters here. Not MPH/Miles/Feets/Gallons and whatever.

So for euro players and realism, yes im sure.

Not sure about it at all. Actually having unified units helps.

For example some of MA rides:

- La-7, Yak-3 (all russuan) - km/h, km, attitude -> bank angle
- Fw 190D, 109.. (all German) - km/h, km, attitude -> horizon
- P-51D, P-47, Spitfire... (all USAAF, RAF) - mph, feet, attitude -> horizon
- F6F, F4U, Seafire, Seahurricane (USN, FAA)-> knots, feet, attitude -> horizon

I fly mostly Yak-3, Spitfire XVI, 190D and F4U...

I'll likely go crazy with all these differences. If we were flying same plane or at lease planes of the same service all the time it wouldn't be a problem. But in AH where you switch planes frequently... it is actually much better to have unified flight instruments.



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