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Offline guncrasher

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Re: Prop. windmilling and stopping speeds.
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2016, 06:26:47 PM »
icepac I love you to death, but I am still wondering what your wish is about.  actually more like how does it affect gameplay.


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Re: Prop. windmilling and stopping speeds.
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2016, 08:39:54 PM »
Being able to stop the prop is the difference between dropping like a stone or gliding enough to make it home.

I'm sure all the LA7 guys who up with 1/4 fuel would appreciate this.

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Re: Prop. windmilling and stopping speeds.
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2016, 09:13:09 AM »
Reduce rpm in the F4U and it'll glide rather well, actually. I'll post a glide video in the film thread.

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Re: Prop. windmilling and stopping speeds.
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2016, 09:44:00 AM »
Reduce rpm in the F4U and it'll glide rather well, actually. I'll post a glide video in the film thread.

All his point is, is the glide path is different between:

High RPM windmilling
Low RPM windmilling
Stopped prop

In order of most to least drag.  I don't know what the proper speeds are, I don't know if what's in the game is right or wrong, but it would be neat if it reflected reality I suppose.

High alt bomber hunting, I do a ton of dead sticking home.  If it's as big of a difference between windmilling and not windmillling as icepac claims, it's worth stopping the prop in some situations.

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Re: Prop. windmilling and stopping speeds.
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2016, 09:55:54 AM »
Being able to stop the prop is the difference between dropping like a stone or gliding enough to make it home.

I just posted a film of making it home a sector away on glide. I took off from that base on auto-climb and a quarter tank. When the fuel ran out, I turned around. I should have reduced rpm right away. I did about 4 minutes into the film. On reflection, I'm glad because it shows what a difference dropping RPM makes. There was no 'dropping like a rock' involved. In game, the prop windmills. In film, it doesn't. A visual glitch. I was travelling at an airspeed of between 100 and 150 and had a rate of descent between 3.5 and less than 2 (the latter two achieved by reducing rpm). That may be why the wish doesn't seem like a huge deal to many. But then, an open canopy wish would be much the same and I'm cool with that. I'm cool without it.  :) :cheers:

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Re: Prop. windmilling and stopping speeds.
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2016, 06:18:10 PM »
In an I16, I found descent of 2200fpm with prop stopped and 6500fpm with prop windmilling.

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Re: Prop. windmilling and stopping speeds.
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2016, 06:50:47 PM »
Yeah.....I checked the F4u1a and tested the descent in the 3 most common options and am pretty impressed how HTC modeled it.

I can retract the wish but will certainly still be able to glide further than 99% of the players.

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Re: Prop. windmilling and stopping speeds.
« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2016, 08:04:53 PM »
Yeah.....I checked the F4u1a and tested the descent in the 3 most common options and am pretty impressed how HTC modeled it.

I can retract the wish but will certainly still be able to glide further than 99% of the players.

So what is the exact speed the prop stops on every plane? Being your so unimpressed you must know the speed of each plane within 5 mph.

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Re: Prop. windmilling and stopping speeds.
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2016, 12:49:09 AM »
So what is the exact speed the prop stops on every plane? Being your so unimpressed you must know the speed of each plane within 5 mph.

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I can tell you from experience that with the Cessna 182 (Continental O-470) and Cessna P206 (Continental IO-520) the prop doesn't stop until roll out after touchdown.
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Re: Prop. windmilling and stopping speeds.
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2016, 08:06:23 PM »
So what is the exact speed the prop stops on every plane? Being your so unimpressed you must know the speed of each plane within 5 mph.

HiTech

Read the post right above yours.

It clearly says I am impressed.
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Re: Prop. windmilling and stopping speeds.
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2016, 08:45:23 AM »
Read the post right above yours.

It clearly says I am impressed.

I apologize for jumping on you. I read the post inncorectly.

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Re: Prop. windmilling and stopping speeds.
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2016, 12:22:59 AM »
I provided all the details.

Surely enough that a trainer could figure it out and not lead off in a tangent totally unrelated to the wishlist post.

Your ad hominem attacks aren't helping and add nothing usable to the discussion.
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