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Offline icepac

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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #60 on: January 18, 2018, 09:36:54 PM »
We only have to wait 30 seconds for an operation which would probably take at least ten minutes in real life. I don't see a man with a hosepipe and bowser when I refuel either nor do I need to see wing covers removed to reload ammunition belts. Some features ought to be relaxed in the interest of keeping the game fun - you can just pretend all that happened if you want to. Hell, knock yourself out and simulate vapour lock and overheating if you're really into selective historical re-enactment.

The lack of WEP recharging is a gameplay anomaly.


Regarding damage, perhaps you could pull into the hangar and have a 'change planes' option and it still counts as a single sortie? If rewarding for RTBing is an interesting dynamic that wants to be promoted in gameplay?


I'm just relaying what I've experienced working on close cowled 3350s.

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« Reply #61 on: January 18, 2018, 11:28:10 PM »
History is not fair. Historic accuracy penalizes no one.

Which is precisely why the Mustang is unfairly penalized.   Historic accuracy is not modeled in this case.    See Bustr’s excellent explanation above. 
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« Reply #62 on: January 19, 2018, 12:23:37 AM »
I'm just relaying what I've experienced working on close cowled 3350s.

Yup which is indeed very interesting. How do they go about cooling them down completely when finished with them? Just let the heat soak process come to its natural conclusion or use external cooling?


I think we could choose to look at WEP this way: in the war you might have had the need occasionally to use WEP or overstress your engine to get you out of trouble. In AH if the gameplay is healthy then we should be having an emergency white knuckle situation every sortie. So I think it's not stretching the imagination too far to relax the physics a little bit regarding stress / cooling. AH does not delve into modelling reliability or complex engine management and we're all fine with that.

If you get to the rearm / refuel pad, it's logical in this context to reset your WEP too. Otherwise you'll just end sortie and get a new plane which amounts to the same without impressive 7+ kill runs in the buffer anymore.



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« Reply #63 on: January 19, 2018, 12:44:47 AM »
From a pilot’s standpoint I can tell you we baby those engines a fair bit.  They’re expensive to overhaul.   I’ve never experienced shock cooling and so I can’t say if it was due to technique or not....but...    On the descent we would pull power based on altitude/distance from the airport to allow the engines to cool down gradually. 

Pull an inch or two of manifold pressure...wait two minutes....pull two more....wait two.....pull two....   Something like that as opposed to going right to idle from cruise close to the airport.   Maybe Colombo has something similar he did.

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