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Offline Skyguns MKII

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If you were air department navy...
« on: November 09, 2018, 09:31:57 PM »
Pad eyes...

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Re: If you were air department navy...
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2018, 09:57:04 PM »
It wasn't just an airdale term:







(Though it was for me.)  :D

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Re: If you were air department navy...
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2018, 08:16:31 AM »
They are on vessels and tanks as well. Not just for tiedown but also lifting in which case they may be referred to as lifting lugs.
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Re: If you were air department navy...
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2018, 08:50:30 AM »
How many of you know, how many tie down chains are required on aircraft on the flight deck when going through a Cat 5 super cyclone / Hurricane..(depending on what parts of the oceans, one might be in regarding what they are called)
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2018, 08:55:39 AM »
How many of you know, how many tie down chains are required on aircraft on the flight deck when going through a Cat 5 super cyclone / Hurricane..(depending on what parts of the oceans, one might be in regarding what they are called)

Three per gear?

(I was land based.)

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Re: If you were air department navy...
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2018, 09:22:53 AM »
36 per aircraft.... (this is when it becomes very hard to find a pad eye that is accessible, ROFL)

If I remember correctly, 3 per gear was standard on land and during flight ops at sea
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"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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Re: If you were air department navy...
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2018, 10:39:06 AM »
don't forget padlocks to secure your boarding ladder to the padeyes so the thieves can't get it

Yachty padeyes:https://www.harken.com/productcategory.aspx?taxid=406

Engineery padeyes: http://padeye.com/

Make sure they won't rip out of the deck or off that big steel thing you are yarding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f1pXJzFjjY
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Re: If you were air department navy...
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2018, 01:37:03 PM »
How many of you know, how many tie down chains are required on aircraft on the flight deck when going through a Cat 5 super cyclone / Hurricane..(depending on what parts of the oceans, one might be in regarding what they are called)

During normal Ops A6 Bombers required 6 chains, Tankers 12 chains. During Hurricane conditions we used 24 chains. Each chain weighed roughly 10lbs and had a tensile strength of 10,000lbs each. (Plane Captain school 101). . . lol

Towards the end of Westpac 86 chains were becoming a "scarce commodity". We were circumventing a hurricane North East of the Philippines, and although we were nowhere near the Hurricane we were taking spray across the bow and occasionally hitting a heavy swell that would make the entire ship shake as she pitched down. One morning we were sent to check on our planes up on the 1 row. My plane was 2nd from the front of the boat and when I got to her she had two chains left attached w/ one just dangling. 

Every morning for the last month of the cruise you would walk the deck searching the F14s, A7s, S3s, E2s and even the Helo's to take back chains the other squadrons had taken during the night. Lots of equipment ended up at the bottom of the ocean towards the end of a Cruise. I remember loading 2 1/2 pallets of ammo cans filled w/ 10 chains each prior to Cruise and barley had 3/4 of a pallet left on the offload. Kids!. . . .lol

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Re: If you were air department navy...
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2018, 06:28:00 AM »
During normal Ops A6 Bombers required 6 chains, Tankers 12 chains. During Hurricane conditions we used 24 chains. Each chain weighed roughly 10lbs and had a tensile strength of 10,000lbs each. (Plane Captain school 101). . . lol
Heh, "Plane Captain" is trained via the line shack and you have to be signed off on all land and carrier deck duties (if you are in a squad that deployed....see Arlo was in a P3 Orion squad, land based only)

Each "Plane Captain Training" is different for each individual aircraft type, some not to hard, some can be overwhelming depending on the aircraft's components that requires inspection, albeit a daily, pre-flight, post-flight or turnaround inspection...

As for A4 skyhawks, F4 phantoms, A7 corsairs, S-3As, F14s and F-18s, my recollection was 3 per gear on land and at sea....unless like on land and doing low/high power turn quals or deployed and certain circumstances called for more....I'm sure you remember the 3 different levels of maintenance: O, I and D....and what each letter stands for...

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Towards the end of Westpac 86 chains were becoming a "scarce commodity". We were circumventing a hurricane North East of the Philippines, and although we were nowhere near the Hurricane we were taking spray across the bow and occasionally hitting a heavy swell that would make the entire ship shake as she pitched down. One morning we were sent to check on our planes up on the 1 row. My plane was 2nd from the front of the boat and when I got to her she had two chains left attached w/ one just dangling. 

Every morning for the last month of the cruise you would walk the deck searching the F14s, A7s, S3s, E2s and even the Helo's to take back chains the other squadrons had taken during the night. Lots of equipment ended up at the bottom of the ocean towards the end of a Cruise. I remember loading 2 1/2 pallets of ammo cans filled w/ 10 chains each prior to Cruise and barley had 3/4 of a pallet left on the offload. Kids!. . . .lol

Sounds like y'alls QA & QC wasn't up to par....out of 4 deployments on 2 different carriers, I only remember a particular squad not checking a tool/socket back in, which required all airdales on deck from all squadrons/shops...for extended FOD walk down and back of the flight deck....ironically it was an AE6B squad's AE3 that left his socket in the aircraft he was working on....probably needless to say that he was written up for it...

Seems things were pretty relaxed in your squad, by the way you described your westpac'86, including the carrier as well...guess things were quite different for flagship squadrons and carriers....

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