P 63 Airacobra

[Arlo]

If you people would look at my first entry , I said I did not particular like the P-63, I am lobbing for a new plane, that's all.    The Fiat G55 for example.

I think we've all seen that. 

[perdue3]

If you people would look at my first entry , I said I did not particular like the P-63, I am lobbing for a new plane, that's all.    The Fiat G55 for example.

I have to ask then, why even mention it?

By the way, we are neighbors it seems. I live on the other side of High Rock Lake.

[morfiend]

I see no reason not to include the P63,maybe not the next plane but at some point it should be added!  Also if you look at the stats on the 63 you can see speeds from 410 to 430 or so and ROC between 3600 and 4900 fpm which makes it no slouch. The improved Mk10 37 mm carried 58 rounds and it still had 2 or 4 50 cals available.

  It was built in large enough numbers and served in squadrons so AFAIK it meet requirements for inclusion.

  That said there's plenty of other planes that should come first,Beau and G55 come to mind but I see no reason it couldnt be in game as I've never heard that it "must" have scored an air to air victory. The meteor is in the same class,no reason not to include just because it doesnt have an air to air victory.


  YMMV!


   

[ONTOS]

I mention it because, you seem to be drifting away from the main reason of the subject, in that we could use a new plane.

[Vinkman]

+1
The P-39 is different and fun. But it cant compete in the Melee because it climbs too slow (2.5K/Min) and is too slow (~350mph) at fight alts.
The P-63 is the same quirky gun pack and cockpit, with more wing and more HP resulting in more climb (3.5K/,in) and top speed of ~410.  Just enough to make it competitive in Melee.

This plane has historic and engineering merit as the best All American single engine V-12 powered dog fighter of the war. 
P-51 had a British Engine (Not All American even though Packard made them in America)
P-40 was a dog in all variants compared to axis competition.
P-39 was under powered and under winged.
P-38 had two engines.

It would be nice to have the best All American dog fighter in the Melee arena because we do so much dog fighter there.  The Air Force wasn't looking for a dog Fighter June of 1944 when the plane came on line. It need more Long range escort planes like the P-51. The Russians were already familiar with Bell and P-39 so it made sense these planes went to them. But it was not because they weren't capable.

Lastly, the Melee is not historical. Corsairs didn't fight 109s or Mustangs, or Yaks. So talking about combat time might be over blown, as most of the High use aircraft are already in the inventory, and many very low use planes are in the plane set. 

Thanks 

[Arlo]

+1
The P-39 is different and fun. But it cant compete in the Melee because it climbs too slow (2.5K/Min) and is too slow (~350mph) at fight alts.
The P-63 is the same quirky gun pack and cockpit, with more wing and more HP resulting in more climb (3.5K/,in) and top speed of ~410.  Just enough to make it competitive in Melee.

This plane has historic and engineering merit as the best All American single engine V-12 powered dog fighter of the war. 
P-51 had a British Engine (Not All American even though Packard made them in America)
P-40 was a dog in all variants compared to axis competition.
P-39 was under powered and under winged.
P-38 had two engines.

It would be nice to have the best All American dog fighter in the Melee arena because we do so much dog fighter there.  The Air Force wasn't looking for a dog Fighter June of 1944 when the plane came on line. It need more Long range escort planes like the P-51. The Russians were already familiar with Bell and P-39 so it made sense these planes went to them. But it was not because they weren't capable.

Lastly, the Melee is not historical. Corsairs didn't fight 109s or Mustangs, or Yaks. So talking about combat time might be over blown, as most of the High use aircraft are already in the inventory, and many very low use planes are in the plane set. 

Thanks 

Are you trying to convince us or HT? HT is the one that counts. 

[ONTOS]

I am trying to convince HT. I always thought that the wish list was to convince HT. It's just a lot of people want to argue a point against it or go to something else off the main subject. The whole thing just make's me tired all over. There are people in here that seem to think they know more or better then anyone else without contributing anything to the cause.  Just like teat's on a boar hog, not worth anything. Can not some one make a wish without all the back and forth as to why it will not work or will work. As you said, it is HT that needs to be convinced.   

[Vinkman]

Are you trying to convince us or HT? HT is the one that counts. 

HT always decides, but he also listens to the what he players want. So both.