Got the stick and throttle programed and working, I did have to select the default map first then re-program the buttons/hats, not sure why, had an older version on CH manager
installed that I had forgot about, I just deleted that and did everything through AH3 options menu, PC is new but hard drive is old with upgrade Win10 on it.
Cannot find my rudder pedals so I just programed the mini stick on the throttle for that, kind of wonky but it works, also this CH gear is long in the tooth and fighter stick spring tension is low, may have to address that.
Anyways have watched Drano's Twitch stream a few times, looks like there is still fun to be had here, thanks for the help.