Author Topic: "Form Battleline" AAR: Clash of Titans!  (Read 392 times)

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« on: September 17, 2001, 12:13:00 PM »
This was the first ever naval snapshot where aircraft played no direct role in the fighting.  Instead, the heavies, the armored battlewagons, decided the day.  This event pitted two cruiser squadrons against each other in a test of steal on steal.  Loosely based on the battle of Dogger Bank (a prelude to the Battle of Jutland), each fleet consisted of four battle cruisers (the ubiquitous AH heavy cruisers), eight destroyers, a flotilla of motor torpedo boats (PT boats), and two unarmed scout planes.  What made this event doubly unique was how these two squadrons were assembled.  Each squadron was actually made up of four, independently controlled mini-task groups consisting of a single cruiser and two DE’s.  Each cruiser was thus capable of independent action, unlike your normal Aces High TG (where sinking the flagship essentially kills the entire TG).

Commodore Eskimo assumed command of the British Grand Fleet battle cruiser squadron, while LdHaHa commanded the German High Seas battle cruiser squadron.  Once all participants had joined the correct side, both squadrons were jumped to a position roughly 30 miles from each other (neither side knew where the other was jumped to).  Each side also had a CV TG nearby, from which they were allowed to launch two TBM’s (with no air-to-ground ordnance); the CV TG was then jumped 100 miles away.  The commodores were given a general direction to the enemy squadron (submarine spotting report).  Each side was also allowed a one-time launch of as many PT boats as they wished, with the understanding that pilots and PT skippers were free to man guns after their planes or PT boats were sunk.

The German scout planes found the British first, and seven torpedo boats fanned out ahead of the German van to make torpedo attacks.  The British fielded only a few PT boats of their own, none of which apparently made it to within torpedo range of the High Seas Fleet.  Four of the German PT boats managed to launch a total of five torpedoes at the British cruisers before succumbing to a hail of eight-inch gunfire.  From my eye-in-the-sky vantage, I watched two of the torpedoes cross the wakes of Royal Navy cruisers.  One British man-o-war actually combed between two German torpedoes launched from a single PT boat!

As the last German torpedo boat was blown to matchwood, the two main bodies came within visual range of each other.  Now the gunnery dual began in earnest.  Towering columns of seawater sprouted all around the opposing ships as gunners sought the range.  A German cruiser was the first to go down, as several of the British cruisers concentrated fire on her.  The lead British cruiser went next, to even the odds for a few long minutes.  One thousand-pound armor-piercing shells arced gracefully through the early morning skies, passing each other in flight.  Oily clouds of acrid smoke soon dotted the seas amongst the German ships, as superior British gunnery began to turn the tides inexorably against their enemy.  Suddenly there were only two German capital ships, then just one.  The three remaining British cruisers swung their main batteries to train on the single remaining German threat, unleashing a terrible fusillade against it.  The bright flash of exploding cordite heralded the end of German aspirations for victory.

The fight went on for a few minutes more, as the German destroyers tried in vain to close to point-blank range with the Royal Navy leviathans.  All were quickly sunk without further loss to the British.  Final score was one British cruiser sunk in exchange for four German cruisers, eight destroyers, and seven motor torpedo boats.

Special thanks to BNg, who popped in to help with CM duties.  This was an incredibly complex snapshot to set up and put into motion; I couldn’t have done it without you, BNg.  Thanks also to everyone for their participation, especially Eskimo and LdHaHa (command is lonely, isn’t it?).  If you enjoyed this, and would like to see more snapshots like it, please post here to show your support.  Thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2001, 08:16:00 PM »
Thank you Sabre and BNg!
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It was a blast!

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2001, 04:17:00 PM »
Hmm...At least one person enjoyed it  :rolleyes: .  Thanks, Eskimo.  We had over twenty people participating last Saturday.  How about some feedback, people?

Also, who might be interested in a similar event based primarily on armored combat?

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2001, 05:19:00 PM »
CC on armor!
3 of us gave ARRs the day of.
Prolly a page back or so.

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2001, 09:14:00 AM »
Well I personally had a great time. What we need a true destroyers with torp tubes (can anybody say Long Lance?).

Armour battles would be fun as well

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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2001, 10:15:00 AM »
I was on German side in PT(SimFreak). 3 turets concentrated on me. Never had a chance. Released 2 torps (way to far a way) didn't do any damage  :(
Would be nice of more people join. We had way to few pt boats.
How about doing it again? Post a message few days before event so I can make time  :)

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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2001, 08:30:00 AM »
Russian: Yeah, I think it may have been your two torps that actually passed (one to each side) of a British cruiser, after passing through the wake of another.  The CM god-in-the-sky view is great for catching the action  ;).  Next time, I'd like to do a night-time action (or at least twilight), which should help the PT's survive a bit longer.  Traditionally, night was their normal hunting time.  

There are some other changes to the naval side of AH I've suggested in the past, including searchlights, rangefinders/gun directors, smoke generators and torps (for destroyers), to name just a few.  I'd also like to see more of a speed difference between the PT's and ships, and between different types of ships.  Ships didn't traditionally charge around at flank speed all the time, and many couldn't reach the high speed the ships of AH all travel at.  Particularly, cargo ships in 1.08 should be travelling at no more than about 15 knots.

I was amazed at the gunnery accuracy of the British in this scenario.  It should have been easier for the PT's to get closer to their targets, and even escape.  Of course, three of those Royal Navy gunners were fellow Buccaneers (Salutes Eskimo, Wabbit, and Oosik), and some of the best gunners in AH  :cool: .  Eskimo has more 8-inch gun kills than some people have air-to-air.

What was most fun about this event, IMNSHO, was the fact that all the CA's on both sides were under independent control.  It was just too cool to watch people try to keep their fleets together while water spouts kept fountaining up all around and between them.

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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2001, 10:41:00 AM »
It would also be be nice to have a more complex damage modell and effects for ships. Right now they re either 100% or sinking. It would be nice to see turrets knocked out, jammed rudders, holes, smoke and fire etc.

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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2001, 02:30:00 PM »
Yep, those are also on my list.  Just like tanks, you should be able to lose gun mounts, radar, etc.  I'd also like to see loss of speed or manuevering (jammed rudders, etc) although that would be tougher, as fleets are currently treated as a grouped entity.  There is currently no way to have a damaged ship leave the formation, except vertically (by sinking, that is), and no way to slow the ships down to allow a wounded ship to keep pace.

I know the focus is and always will be on the air war, but I think this snapshot gave a hint of what is possible with a little more emphasis.

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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2001, 05:47:00 PM »
i would be in for an armored battle

ah, memories of the Afrika Corps scenario!

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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2001, 09:31:00 PM »
yep it was fun flyin that unarmed tbm and almost geting shot down by an nme tbm........
lol