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Offline Jebo44

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Ok fixed initial problem but still need help:(
« on: May 19, 2002, 11:14:41 PM »
Ok I fixed my first problem, however that brings me back to square one which is what compression tool do I use??? I have tried a few of them but after I select the compression tool when I save an AVI the playback is so slow it is like the FPS is at 2 instead of 30 where I would like it to be. So what compression tool should I use?

Oh and by the way when I have tried the version of compression like MPEG-4 Video Codec V3, I get an error when I open the completed video file.

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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2002, 12:35:57 PM »
I think Real Producer will give you the best quality for the size. Here's a link to a comparison I did a while back.

Comparisons

One more thing, Microsoft does not support mpeg4-v3, I'd use v2 if you're intent on mpeg.
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Thanks Iron
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2002, 12:49:47 PM »
Thanks Iron I appreciate the help. I checked out your comparrisons and I see what the differences are.

One question when you saved your avi file you uncompressed it right?

Well when you were actually creating the avi file in AHV was the recording session really slow? I mean mine creeps and that is uncompressed. I have 1 Gig of memory and a radeon 8500 so those two things should not be a factor.

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2002, 01:02:55 PM »
Jebo, in the comparisons I referred to I didn't compress with the AH film viewer. Something you want to avoid, compressing twice. That is, don't compress with the AH film viewer if you are going to compress with another editor like Virtualdub.

Concerning the speed, mine doesn't seem slow, can you quantify? How large is the file and how long?
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2002, 11:33:55 PM »
AKIron,

I will try not compressing in AHFV. That maybe the ticket.

Where it is slow for me is when I am actually creating the AVI video from the Aces High Film in the viewer.  To go through the entire process:

1st I make my selection of what section of film I want to save.

2nd I then save the section as AVI and have the compression selections. (I will try not compressing)

Now this is where the video is superslow. I make my camera views during this selection...so that the final saved AVI has the camera views that I want for the finished product.

Then I just Import it into the film manipulator(Adobe Premiere or what have you) and things are fine there.

I only have slow frame rates in the 2nd step in AHFV.

Maybe I am doing something out of whack there. I am not sure.

I appreciate your suggestions with this.

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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2002, 08:58:54 AM »
Jebo,

The reason I recommended not compressing from the AH film viewer has nothing to do with the speed of processing. Rather it has to do with the quality of the final product. All compression causes degradation of the film.

If you compress with AH and then edit with another editor you are starting with an already degraded film when using the second editor.

I can't say that I noticed any speed difference in the AH film editor when saving either compressed or uncompressed. The speed at which I created the avi is pretty much the same as the speed at which the film plays normally. I do have a fast PC and drive subsystem which is probably a factor (AMD 2000+ and 10k ultra 160 SCSI HD).

Maybe we can hear from others as to what is a normal avi creation speed?
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2002, 11:07:24 AM »
Hey bud I am following you on the non compression in AHFV. It really does amke adifference.

The avi recording speed has improved a small amount but nothing to write home about. I think I will try shutting down non essential programs and see if that helps.

Thanks again for your help.

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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2002, 03:36:08 PM »
Something else that must have an effect on speed; resolution. Also, not sure about frame rate but I drop to 12 to keep the files smaller. The resolution I typically use is 320X200. If you're using larger it will go slower and the files will be larger.
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2002, 09:34:34 PM »
Ok folks I got it to work!

Thanks for all your help AKIron! :)

here is a link to the file:

http://www.vmf222.com    its on this page just scroll down and right click! on the sword and ega pic.

it is a large file but bare with me it was my first time:)
« Last Edit: May 24, 2002, 09:43:18 PM by Jebo44 »

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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2002, 10:04:59 AM »
Very nice video. At 56MB you may not get many to download it though.
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2002, 05:26:30 PM »
Yeah I doubt I will too, I will work on it though. The lowest I have been able to get it is 36MB but the quality was horrible. Thanks for taken the time to DL it and give it a look see.