Author Topic: More Ann Coulter Nonsense!! (Read 2384 times)

midnight Target · « **Reply #120 on:** August 02, 2002, 05:43:42 PM »

OTOH Toad,

If you were to read my earlier post in this thread on "my take on the election", I think you'll see that I'm not one to bemoan the results indefinitely either.
What happened was a disgrace to both sides of the aisle.

Toad · « **Reply #121 on:** August 02, 2002, 06:31:03 PM »

Not to quibble MT, but it's not really a question of bemoaning the results indefinitely.

What I'm getting at is IF the shoe was on the other foot... the circumstances were EXACTLY the same except the principles, Bush and Gore, had their roles reveresed... would you be bemoaning the fact that "Bush got cheated"?

I'm thinking you wouldn't.. and a lot of others in this thread as well.

midnight Target · « **Reply #122 on:** August 02, 2002, 06:34:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Not to quibble MT, but it's not really a question of bemoaning the results indefinitely.

What I'm getting at is IF the shoe was on the other foot... the circumstances were EXACTLY the same except the principles, Bush and Gore, had their roles reveresed... would you be bemoaning the fact that "Bush got cheated"?

I'm thinking you wouldn't.. and a lot of others in this thread as well.

Yes, in that respect you are probably right.

10Bears · « **Reply #123 on:** August 02, 2002, 07:52:11 PM »

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Any of you "gore guys" gonna answer besides MT?

Heheh

About 4 pages worth... but I'm glad these machines have a delete key. Too controversial.

Enjoy the con Mr Toad, have a beer for me

(one of the green bottles eh)

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #124 on:** August 03, 2002, 08:07:45 PM »

only got 4 pages so much roadkill dont know where to start.

gore would be president today if he had not distanced himself from clinton. dont yall just hate that . makes your realise how fringe you rich old men are.

mietla · « **Reply #125 on:** August 03, 2002, 08:38:17 PM »

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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
gore would be president today if he had not distanced himself from clinton. dont yall just hate that

Now, did you think before you said that, or did you just quote the media?

Cobra · « **Reply #126 on:** August 03, 2002, 09:58:42 PM »

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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
only got 4 pages so much roadkill dont know where to start.

gore would be president today if he had not distanced himself from clinton. dont yall just hate that .

Hehe...no, but I bet YOU do!

But you are right about one thing Towd.....Gore flat out fumbled and lost a sure thing election...nobody stole it from him.

Cobra

Kieran · « **Reply #127 on:** August 03, 2002, 10:07:59 PM »

Rich? Nope. Old? Yup.

It's pretty simple; I worked hard for what I have, and I don't need the government taking it away from me to give to someone that won't work for theirs. I'm all for helping those that can't help themselves, but I am totally against helping those that simply won't.

You've been clear in the past you think there are too many people that have too much money, and that you would be for having the government take it away to give to others. Tell me, is that how government stays out of the private citizens' lives? Is that not by definition socialism?

mietla · « **Reply #128 on:** August 03, 2002, 11:13:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Kieran
Rich? Nope. Old? Yup.

It's pretty simple; I worked hard for what I have, and I don't need the government taking it away from me to give to someone that won't work for theirs. I'm all for helping those that can't help themselves, but I am totally against helping those that simply won't.

Yes indeed, it is very simple. You've expressed it better than I would ~~Kieran.~~

wsnpr · « **Reply #129 on:** August 04, 2002, 03:44:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Let me ask you "Gore really won" guys this question.

If the situation was exactly reversed... exactly, all the same things happened on the same timeline.. and Gore "won" the election... would you still be whining that "Bush actually won the election!" ?

Would 10Bears and Towd be arguing that Gore stole the election?

Please do answer.

Because I'm sure my view would be the same had the situation be exactly reversed. Just curious to see if YOUR position would be the same.. IE, popular vote determines. (Which of course it does not. Never has.)

Candidates have been elected even though they received fewer popular votes than their opponents. Both Rutherford B. Hayes, in 1876, and Benjamin Harrison, in 1888, were elected in this manner. John Quincy Adams also received fewer popular votes than his opponent. On several occasions the popular vote pluralities of the electoral college victors have been razor thin or even questionable. One instance was the election of John F. Kennedy over Richard M. Nixon in 1960. IIRC, Eisenhower prevailed upon Nixon not to challenge the discrepancies in voting in order to preserve the peoples "faith in the system". It wasn't because he felt the wasn't sufficient grounds.

Actually I was a Gore supporter as I thought he was the lesser of two evils (Sad that I had to make my selection that way). At least Gore wasn't a cocaine user in his past, he served in Vietnam, seems to have the higher IQ, seems to be a straight arrow.
Although the election was finally settled on a very rare Supreme Court intervention, I have accepted the fact that some IDIOTS in Florida could not comprehend how to vote properly for their choice. We deserve what we get. Had the results been different and Gore winning, I'd bet we'd see a fair share of Bush supporters claiming of an election stolen. All about biased thinking and arguements on all sides.

Actually the 1960 election of Illinois voting results being in question would not have made a difference had they been overturned. Even had Nixon won that state, he still would have lost that election. Had those electoral college votes been enough to give Nixon the presidency, you can bet Nixon and most (if not all) Republicans would be DEMANDING a recount. As would any candidate from any party given those same circumstances.

Regards,
wSNPR