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Hortlund · « **Reply #30 on:** December 11, 2002, 03:23:19 PM »

I dont know what you guys think, but IMHO Lothlorien SUCKS. I mean whats with the colouring of those scenes? From the book I had pictured the light green grass, bright colours with birch and grass and flowers and ...well you know...elven stuff. Then the clear river and the white boats...Lots of pleasant colours, lots of green, blue and white...but nooo

Instead we get this crappy Germanlike Schwarzwald-forrest with huge depressing pines and dark dark colours. And Galadriel...I mean COME ON, that girl looks like a Horse in the face.

No, Lothlorien was awful in the movie version.

Thrawn · « **Reply #31 on:** December 11, 2002, 03:51:36 PM »

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That doesnt make sense at all. If Tom was the first man he should have died ages ago. Who is he married to btw? Is she an elf? (elven?) Or is she a maia?

Remeber with every generation of men and elf, the blood grows weaker.

A human kill the first dragon, (forget his name). An elf wounded Morgoth, (evil god, was Sauron was his squeak)

Hence, "The blood of man failed."

Humans breed and die faster then elves so they became weaker faster.

Part of the reason Galadriel is damn powerful, she goes back to a much earlier generation.

So if you have the FIRST man, we are talking about an insanely powerful individual.

Edit: Wow! I'm REALLY geeking out!

Hortlund · « **Reply #32 on:** December 11, 2002, 03:52:34 PM »

Yes, but still a mortal.

Animal · « **Reply #33 on:** December 11, 2002, 03:55:33 PM »

Tom is nature itself.
If Sauron was to destroy all of middle earth, Tom would have been the last thing to go before there was nothing (according to Tolkien)

So Tom was sort of middle earth personified.

Thrawn · « **Reply #34 on:** December 11, 2002, 03:55:56 PM »

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Yes, but still a mortal.

Sure, in theory, but if you die of old age at a million years old, who cares.

Beside he would probably diddly off to the "West" (heaven) anyways.

Hortlund · « **Reply #35 on:** December 11, 2002, 04:11:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Animal
Tom is nature itself.
If Sauron was to destroy all of middle earth, Tom would have been the last thing to go before there was nothing (according to Tolkien)

So Tom was sort of middle earth personified.

No, that doesnt make sense either. What is "nature itself" or "middle earth personified"? It might work as a figure of speech, but not as a character. If Tom would be something metaphysical like that, it would go against all the other characters made by Tolkien. Tom could be a maia or vala dedicated to protecting the nature, but that is a completely different thing.

Sauron is a maia, so if Tom was a vala it would be true that he would have nothing to fear from Sauron. But after the great war against Morgoth, all of the valar went to the west, so he cant be one of them. That leaves maia, elf or something else. He seems more powerful than an elf though (the part with the wright).

Thrawn, no man is allowed in the west. The only man to ever set foot on the western shores was Gil-Galad, but after that he became immortal, and never rejoined the ranks of men.

funkedup · « **Reply #36 on:** December 11, 2002, 04:16:50 PM »

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keep thinking of your Star Wars brethern being interview by Triumph.

LOL So true. I think the Lord of the Rings nerds are actually below the Star Wars nerds in the nerd pecking order. Even the Star Trek New Generation nerds could kick their ass.

Thrawn · « **Reply #37 on:** December 11, 2002, 04:45:37 PM »

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Thrawn, no man is allowed in the west. The only man to ever set foot on the western shores was Gil-Galad, but after that he became immortal, and never rejoined the ranks of men.

Fine, so he doesn't go into the west, but dies when he he is killed or middle eath explodes or whatever.

hardcase · « **Reply #38 on:** December 11, 2002, 04:58:05 PM »

Bought the DVD Special Edition of Followship of the Ring and Felicia and I are going on the 18th.

BTW..I have Legolas as a vanity plate. Had it for years. PPl want to pay me to give it up. LOL:D

HC

Furious · « **Reply #39 on:** December 11, 2002, 05:30:47 PM »

The Riddle of Tom Bombadil

midnight Target · « **Reply #40 on:** December 11, 2002, 05:42:50 PM »

I agree with Hortlund. Lothlorien and Galadriel were the biggest dissapointments in the movie. I loved the movie, don't get me wrong, but Galariel is supposed to be a hauntingly beautiful woman, and Lothlorien had the golden trees.

Wasn't this also where Gimli and Legolas sealed their friendship, and where Gimli falls in love with the Galadriel. And the gifts!! How the heck are they gonna explain the special rope and the light of Elendil and.... oh my god... I am geeking.... stop meeeee!!!!!!

Animal · « **Reply #41 on:** December 11, 2002, 05:46:57 PM »

MT its on the Extended Version.
They figured that if you are geek enough to care about that, you will get it.

And about Galadriel, I thought it was great, but no woman will be 'hauntingly beautiful' to every man.

Wlfgng · « **Reply #42 on:** December 11, 2002, 05:47:37 PM »

screw that.. my new machine arrives in 8 days !

Hortlund · « **Reply #43 on:** December 12, 2002, 06:14:37 AM »

About that light Frodo gets..I have been thinking about that one. Is that part of a silmaril? I cant remember exactly what the book says about that right now.

Hortlund · « **Reply #44 on:** December 12, 2002, 06:16:16 AM »

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Fine, so he doesn't go into the west, but dies when he he is killed or middle eath explodes or whatever.

According to Tolkien we are living in middle earth right now, so I guess he's still around then.