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Offline StSanta

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Job interview, part II
« on: January 13, 2003, 07:47:34 AM »
That was weird.

I arrive at ETI A/S. Building is quite large made out of brick, normal looking. On closer inspection I see a big metal fence topped with bar wire. There are cameras here and there, covering the building from all sides. Over the windows there are big sturdy metal shutters that can be closed and thus deny entry. It looks like a fortress of sorts - all that is missing is a dude with some boiling oil and some elves. Well, the satellite dishes would be outta place.

Anyway, i walk up to the gate, press a button. 'Yes'? 'I'm Claus, ehre for a job interview.' 'Identification, please?'. Now I'm sort of starting to wonder about this place, but I produce an ID card and they buzz me through the metal gate. Then a second metal door, also locked. When i enter I'm met by a secretary of sorts. She asks for my mobile phone and ask if I have other devices that can send signals outside, to which I answer 'no' in a sort of wondrous way. Then I sign a visitors waiver, put on a patch that said 'Visitor - to be escorted at all times'. These guys take security seriously.

All is spot clean inside and it feels like I'm in some film about the future - black and silver things, radical design. The place smells of competence and money. Am beginning to think I'm underqualified.

HR lady (heh, MY age, am trying to sell myself to her, why is this similar to a bar?) explains that they're a relatively small company with around 200 employees and that if any of the bigger companies got enough info about what and how they do business, they'd be run over. Plus there are lots of expensive things in the building. And there's a drug addiction treatment center across the road. And, after all, they make signal analysis, data reconstruction and other security related software, so there's a need for security.

Interview goes ok. Not many of the standard questions, mostly elaborations etc and they present the company. Very impressive. More questions.

It goes on and I can tell I'm not gonna get the job. Sure enough, they say that based on the interview and my application they don't think I'd be stimulated enouh by working in the internal tech support department. They even say I'm overqualified, that they're really looking for people with MS certificates and the like. 'F@rk' I think. They try to make me feel better by saying that there were 45 applicants and they only selected 5 for interviews - not that that helped my mood.

Then they mention that there's another position available. Technical Draft Writer. Looks very interesting. Only thing is they're looking for an experienced TDW - which I am not. But they ask me questions about how much I'd want in salary, when I could start and tell me about the fringe benefits (free food, free mobile phone, new laptop and new ordinary PC). Thing is they are still open for applications (til the 16th) and they'd have to go through the sorting process. But I should get an answer in two weeks, and if they're interested they'll go for a second interview where I am to go through a personality test (I can give them the answer: f@rked up) and a 'job test' whatever that entails. Company language is English but that shouldn't be too much of a problem. Anyway, if I get the job I am to write technical documentation for the programs they develop, as well as in house SW development documentation in cooperation with programmers and engineers.

Now THIS is a job I want. Really bad. Too bloody cool. Never mind money etc - these guys are expanding rapidly (3-7 new employees a month for a year now) at a time when others are succumbing to the bad times. Working with engineers and programmers. I mean, I get to do technical stuff (which I love) AND write (look at the length of this to judge whether I like that or not).

Only thing is, HR lady says that the consequence of the job would be a rather narrow career path, at least in house. They have a documentation department with 7 employees so the top is leader of that. Not that I'm thinking about that.

To me, the job sounds pretty damned fantastic. Get to play around with the latest security related software developed by a leading company. Write stuff about it. Get PAID to do it. But the career path thing has me wondering.

Anyway, that's it. Thanks for all the tips I got earlier. Will keep you chaps informed

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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2003, 08:01:48 AM »
Good luck on the job Santa.

When HR warns of a limited career path though, you may want to listen.  It may not be a big deal if they start you off with boatloads of cash, but if its a competitive rate with little to no chance for advancement... then its not very competitive.

Then again... its good experience.

BTW.. don't get too enamored with high security, high tech and so forth.  You're a recent college graduate... where you end up working first will be incredibly inneficient and beaurocratic.  It will frustrate you to no end.  This will last until you quit and find another job only to discover that the first one wasn't so bad afterall. ;)

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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2003, 08:10:03 AM »
Well, it doesn't have to be a career for life anyway - but it is in the sector you want to work in and it would be good experience. You would also have access to internal jobs that come up, that are not advertised externally - they may suit you better. If it's what you want to do I'd go for it.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2003, 08:36:14 AM »
wtg

now on your next interview, wear ur leather pants AND bring your dog :)

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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2003, 08:52:37 AM »
good luck,

when you go back for the 'personality test', it is usually about 20 questions rephrased 5 or 10 times each.  mostly they look for inconsistancys from 1 phrasing of the same question to another.  for most of us you are much better off to go with your honest answers than to try to figure out what the 'right' answer is to each question.

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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2003, 09:14:53 AM »
Well thats great Santa now let me tell ya how it works in the REAL world.

    It was a clear bright morning as I hesitantly headed up the path to my,hopefully,new career.As I passed under those gleaming yellow arches,standing proudly and high professing that all is good and right in the world,I trembeled slightly.Knowing that this was my Valhalla.My Waterloo as it were.I strode through the door,purpousfull in my stride.I looked left,then right.There it was.The front desk.A line was formed and I thought to myself,"Great.Just f@ckin great.I dont stand a chance." I fidgeted with the change in my pocket.Nervous and tired of the great journey that had brought me here.Finally it was my turn.I stepped forward and professed loudly and proudly,"I would like an application for the soy expiditer." Thewoman behind the "desk" smiled and said,"Would you like fries with that sir?"   :rolleyes:
  Well maby not.  

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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2003, 09:34:46 AM »
Dead-end job there could be the entry-level job for another company.  What I'm saying is, you work that job, and then when you're ready to jump ship you'll have practical work experience that you can sell to a bigger company with larger career options.

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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2003, 11:54:52 AM »
cool :)
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