Author Topic: screw this war/antiwar stuff (Read 754 times)

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #15 on:** March 10, 2003, 04:15:12 PM »

You pay $8.40 a gallon? I dont think so, not even in euroland...

air_guard · « **Reply #16 on:** March 10, 2003, 04:28:33 PM »

gas i get for free, but my wife dont like the smell ?

SwiftSam · « **Reply #17 on:** March 10, 2003, 05:17:37 PM »

If you want high prices come to Britain. We're talking around about 5/6 pounds a gallon (albeit Brit not american gallon but there ain't much difference) which is about $8/9 a gallon. $2.35 a gallon would be 1.49. If only, If only

P.S my pound key isn't workin, pirate copy of Win 98SE with US keyboard settings

Saintaw · « **Reply #18 on:** March 10, 2003, 05:43:53 PM »

about 90c a Liter Grunherz. Been a while since you last visited I see

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #19 on:** March 10, 2003, 05:54:50 PM »

Yea but dont forget all that euro socialized "free" of charge psychotherapy you can take advantage of when the high gas prices drive you nuts.

WineMan · « **Reply #20 on:** March 10, 2003, 06:04:49 PM »

Go buy some gas in Europe, then you'll see just how cheap we have it.

Curval · « **Reply #21 on:** March 10, 2003, 06:11:15 PM »

errr gas is so expensive now BECAUSE of the war/anti war stuff.

Just sayin

Tuomio · « **Reply #22 on:** March 11, 2003, 03:54:39 AM »

4,5$ per gallon here, been so for many years. And its now just beginning to rise because the Iraq situation.

Defiance · « **Reply #23 on:** March 11, 2003, 04:50:30 AM »

Hiya's,
Gas "petrol" in the UK as we call it

It's £0.84p to £0.90p a litre here ($1.34c - $1.44c ) here as the government taxes it @ 75% maybe down to 70% i can't rem offhand, It was taxed @ 80% some years back lol

And ohh don't forget we pay "VAT" value added tax which is currently @ 17.5%

Guys from the good ole usa never consider a drive-ferry/drive to uk with your 6 litre + jobs as you would die if ya had to fill up over here especially when i see what some of ya beasts do to a gallon

Like all things taxable here when demand (people wising-up and using/buying stuff carefully n wisely) drops our beloved government recoups it by whacking cost up

So as people quit smoking/driving so much drinking so much and countless over things they keep the revenues up by charging more

Though this keeps the coffers topped they are in for one hell of a chitstorm when joe bloggs can't afford petrol/studmuffins/booze as he has reached his spending limit

Ask any lecturer on taxes etc and they will say the same that in time "overtaxing" kills as it defeats demand lol

Good ole UK, Just wait to see exchequer go titsup as no-one can afford basic "gas" to get to work and the wasted monies going on public travel stuff ends up being too little too late lmao

While i am on a rant ...........

We pay road tax (excise license) out of this a mere 10% goes on anything road related, Also we pay NI (national insurance on earnings to fund the what people think is a "free" health service

)
Out of all the billions raised for health a mere 1/3 goes on health

And out of that takeout all the wasted (parties/trips abroad/golden handshakes when guys shreckup etc etc) you can see why we like lemmings follow in the dark to a ever nearing collapse of basic infrostructure

BASS used to be and i believe were the UK's 1st brewing industrial company, Well not no more , After having to compete with a never ending cheaper and in someways superior ale/s from the continent (btw that make more from charging lower tax etc as like now they tend to supply a market in the UK which can't really compete as they r taxed to the gonads over here)

Overtax kills in the end and as BASS seemed to of proved by ceasing uk alcohol production/anything to do with brewing

And to think the government here was using billions to try to combat cheap-booze-studmuffins brought in by uk citizens lol nly to find they are breaking the EEC laws (had to officially stop all this confescating crap last year) Though this was done you see as a result of uk guys/gals making use of cheaper goods over the channel, Really pissed the governments off hence a illegal clampdown on stuff coming in with people after a bargain over the channel

There ya go a l'il rant and a bit of info to people who think some stuff in UK is free

Have a nice day (feel sorry ya having to pay £1.50 a gallon or less

)

Can't USA take UK as the next State ?? I would'nt mind and i'm darn sure others would'nt either

lazs2 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 11, 2003, 08:34:36 AM »

I was having fun on a trip this weekend and was half bellybutton racing some ford lightning... never got past 110 or so... mostly just punching off from 80 or 90 to see...you know.. I checked the milage cause I started with a full tank and wanted to fill up again before I left my girlfriends... 9 miles to the gallon.

I met two funny talking guys at the pumps and their girlfriend.. they were all from manchester.. they had rented a fully optioned jeep wagon V8 (bright red) and were trying to figure out how to work the pumps.. they were laughing and enjoying the car and the gas prices.
lazs

Monk · « **Reply #25 on:** March 11, 2003, 11:48:24 AM »

Just tanked today, 1.17euro per liter. What are there 3 something liters per gallon?

MrBodi · « **Reply #26 on:** March 11, 2003, 12:14:40 PM »

Actually, what always gets me is how the price at the local station rises the same day the price per barrel of oil goes up. Funny, I always thought it takes time to ship the oil over, refine it, distribute it etc...

And of course, when the price of oil goes down, it takes weeks for the local stations to reflect any drop in price.

Awhile ago, there was a fire at the local refinery here in the SF bay area. Prices at the pump went up immediately. My friend's dad worked at the refinery. Said the fire was in the area that made fertilizer. Make you wonder, eh?

Udie · « **Reply #27 on:** March 11, 2003, 12:23:27 PM »

WHEW just paid a damn $1.55 for medium grade, it is getting expensive

Actually that is pretty high for Texas. There are some places next to freeways that are charging $1.65 for medium grade, price gouging bastards!

Charon · « **Reply #28 on:** March 11, 2003, 12:51:44 PM »

The average petroleum retailer is making less than 10-cents per gallon margin, often 5-cents. If they are branded, then they have supply contracts that reflect the partner Oil Company’s supply pricing. If they are independent, then they buy refined products at the rack. As a commodity, any disruption or potential disruption will impact the price at the rack, in exactly the same way a sentence from Greenspan can impact stock prices.

It has happened where a local retailer is gouging prices. However, this is far rarer than he or she calling into the suppliers and discovering that supply prices have increased overnight. You can't have dry tanks when the customers stop in, so you buy and price accordingly. The industry is moving to hedging, etc. but it lags in this area at present so it tends to be a reactive market.

On top of that, Rip touched on some significant issues with a balkanized market of specialty gasoline formulations that prevent the easy transfer of product or import if disruptions occur. Further, you can blame OPEC; Venezuelan strikes; the standard scheduled product draw down for maintenance and switchover to summertime RFG formulations at refineries, terminals and bulk plants; and war jitters. In some peak summer season volatility situations you can even blame capitalism in the refining industry which worked to aggressively reduce overproduction capacity so that at peak times (summer) it runs about 98 percent. At this level, a refinery fire or pipeline disruption can either psychologically disrupt prices or actually disrupt prices very easily since, when combined with the balkanization of gasoline requirements, there is little margin for error.

It is a very complicated industry, and pricing reflects that complication. I could go on for 3000 to 4000 or more words, but this is it in a nutshell.

Charon