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Offline OIO

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« on: April 24, 2003, 04:08:46 PM »
BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) -- The Colombian government is ready to negotiate with members of the country's largest rebel group who sincerely want to end the nation's 38-year civil war, President Alvaro Uribe said Thursday.

"There is a sector that is more inclined to violence and terrorism, and another sector more inclined to a political solution," Uribe said in an interview with Caracol Radio.

However, Uribe did not say how big the faction that allegedly wants to discuss peace is.

The government has had written contact with the faction of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, and will continue to pursue negotiations "so that this thin beacon that has been turned on can become a strong light for peace," Uribe said.

He reiterated that the primary condition for beginning formal peace talks is that the FARC must commit to a cease-fire.

One of the key issues in any future negotiations would be the dozens of political hostages the rebels are holding in the hopes of trading them for jailed rebels. Uribe has suggested that freed rebels in such an exchange could be sent to a different country _ perhaps France.

France's ambassador said Thursday his country was studying the proposal.

"We are ready to continue helping, and contemplate all of the options," Daniel Parfait said at a human rights forum in Bogota.

The 16,000-strong FARC and a smaller rebel group have been fighting for almost four decades against a succession of elected governments in this South American country.

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I dont understand how any country agrees to give safe haven to criminals. Worse off, is how MY country can even suggest that. Crap, they must be out of their mind or desperate to get them off their backs.

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Offline Syzygyone

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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2003, 04:14:28 PM »
I've pretty much sworn off Columbia ever since Clancy wrote Clear and Present Danger

Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2003, 04:19:22 PM »
Ever since they allowed that Cocaine Drug king to build his own "prison", I wrote off Columbia. (Escobar? Can't remember his name, either way, he's a stiff...)

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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2003, 04:28:33 PM »
Damn you gringos, its spelled COLOMBIA. :D

You make a good analogy though, the gov. at the time of escobar's capture was *really* desperate.

Hell, I remember during those years we couldnt even play outside and it was terrible to see mom's face worried when dad went to work... they were detonating those car bombs everywhere.

But what I dont get is THIS presidency, who apparently is the only one in 40 years that has the balls to tell those scum that they wont play pokey no more... and now they do *this* . Very dissapointing :( . This presidency isn't desperate, its got them guerrillas SCARED and running. But instead of shooting them in the back as they run, they turn around and give them an opportunity to live near the Eiffel tower.. WTF? Thats like giving the auschwitz guards a pat in the hand and letting them go free to live in france.

This pisses me off *greatly*. :mad: :mad:

Offline Syzygyone

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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2003, 04:35:38 PM »
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Originally posted by OIO
Damn you gringos, its spelled COLOMBIA. :D

 

Sorry, you are right about the spelling



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But instead of shooting them in the back as they run, they turn around and give them an opportunity to live near the Eiffel tower.. WTF? Thats like giving the auschwitz guards a pat in the hand and letting them go free to live in france.

Yet ANOTHER GOOD REASON not to like France!!!!

Offline senna

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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2003, 04:35:43 PM »
Have you tried coke, its not bad. Me I like 7-UP though sometimes I'll drink Mountain Dew (its not made out of mountian dew is it?). I usually never drink sodas though.

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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2003, 12:34:04 AM »
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Have you tried coke, its not bad. Me I like 7-UP though sometimes I'll drink Mountain Dew (its not made out of mountian dew is it?). I usually never drink sodas though.

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No mountain dew isn't made of mountain dew. I think it does come from mountain oysters though. I never touch the stuff but I understand Dowding thinks highly of it...









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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2003, 12:52:56 AM »
Whenever the president of Colombia starts acting friendly to FARC the generals reach for their pistols . In the last few years colombia has come uncomfortably close to a military coup due to concessions made by the government to the marxist rebels, which have been very unpopular with both the military and the people of colombia .

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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2003, 04:26:28 AM »
OIO, where did you grow up?

Offline OIO

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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2003, 08:57:02 AM »
Born and raised in Colombia Martlet. In US since '97 (college).

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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2003, 10:46:42 AM »
OIO: I dont understand how any country agrees to give safe haven to criminals. Worse off, is how MY country can even suggest that. Crap, they must be out of their mind or desperate to get them off their backs.

 So you've answered yourself. When faced with an armed robber, giving him your wallet and unmolested passage is usually your best choice.


This presidency isn't desperate, its got them guerrillas SCARED and running.

 For the last few decades - while the country is going nowhere economically and socially. Could last a few more.


This pisses me off *greatly*.
In US since '97 (college).


 But you are not planning to AUC in order to round up those "SCARED and running" FARC marxists, right?
 Apparently you personally think that personal safety, getting an education and going on with your life is preferable even if some FARC terrorists go unshot? Quite reasonable.
 Why shouldn't the government be criticised for reaching the same conclusion?

 miko

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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2003, 11:12:12 AM »
Hehe, forget the spelling... if you misprounce it, you get a lecture.  "Senor... stop.  It is ColOOOmbia... not Coluuumbia."

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Offline OIO

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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2003, 11:53:32 AM »
miko, one of the things you may not be aware of (and I know I did not mention it before, my bad), is that these guerillas have been doing nothing but playing games with the gov. for decades.

for the past 20 years they have been using the negotiating table as a means to get the army off their backs ('cause the army stops attacking them but THEY dont stop kidnapping or killing entire villages). They are not interested in negotiating for peace, they are a standing army of the narcotrafickers (though by now they ARE the narcotrafickers), not the "revolutionary" army they claim to be.

Past presidency gave them an area the size of switzerland so they could have serious peace talks... they used it to rearm , re-equip and consolidate their drug trade.

Its a game they play, much like the NK dictator plays with the US.. nothing but stalling every negotiation so they can gain advantage in the meantime...and saber-rattling (although these guys actually kill and kidnap, they dont SAY they are going to do it, they DO it).

And they are not marxists. Any link they had with ideological armed struggle dissapeared way back in the late 70's. They are nothing more than armed thugs and narcotrafickers since then.
 
"Quite reasonable.Why shouldn't the government be criticised for reaching the same conclusion?"

With the above being said, because they have already gone through this with the only result being a massive surge in dead innocent civilians and increased kidnappings every time the guerrillas "leave" the negotiating table.

I had hopes this president would say "no more" and just shoot them to pieces (he had been doing that quite nicely lately), but now to have the gall to suggest these murderers go free.. thats wrong imo. :(