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« on: May 15, 2003, 02:12:39 PM »
When President Bush travels to St. Petersburg early next month, he will again urge President Vladimir Putin to stop supplying Iran with the means to develop nuclear weapons. Putin will insist, as usual, that his dangerous trade is all for peaceful purposes.

Bush will seem to tolerate that. Further, he will pretend to forget the Russian's last-ditch support in the U.N. of Saddam's tyranny. That's what passes for diplomacy.

Underneath that public rapprochement, however, will be a clear understanding in the White House that the U.S. and Russia are by no means allies. Though our two nations have some common interests, our differences are deepening: Russia is still a one-party oligarchy with dissent stifled by state-run television and has shown an affinity for murderous dictators from the Balkans to the Persian Gulf.

The atmosphere will be quite different when Bush travels on to Poland. In Cracow or Warsaw, he will warmly shake the hand of President Aleksander Kwasniewski, the leader who — when it came to supporting a war to eradicate a dangerous tyranny — recently demonstrated the courage to defy the Russians on his east and the Germans and French to his west.

During GW2, a symbolic contingent of 200 Polish troops helped secure Iraq's southern oil fields. To show the coalition's appreciation, a couple of thousand more Poles are being given the responsibility and honor of stabilizing a sector of freed Iraq, with their occupation costs covered by nations belatedly wanting to contribute support.

In a gesture that only Eastern Europeans with long memories can fully grasp, the Polish defense minister sweetly invited his German counterpart to contribute troops to this Polish-led European force. Officials under the anti-American Chancellor Gerhard Schröder seethed at the notion of German soldiers' saluting Polish officers, and angrily rejected the generous Polish offer.

This illustrates the way the Atlantic alliance, as it used to be called, is realigning itself. On the Old Europe side, strikebound France and jobless Germany (backed up by the full power of Belgium and Luxembourg) are attempting to rally a group to counter what they claim to see darkly as American hegemony. So far, their only recruit is Putin's Russia, glad to be asked to join anything European.

Fortunately, this Franco-German attempt to dominate neighbors generated the emergence of New Europe. Britain, Spain, Italy and other Western Europeans are unimpressed with the chimera of the U.S. as big-bully cowboy. They found common political cause with the nations of Eastern Europe, who well remember who freed them from Communist domination — and who do not like Jacques Chirac's derogation of them as "not well brought up."

America did not cause this old-new split, though our interest in extending freedom and stopping the spread of terror made us the object of it. Nor is it in our interest to exacerbate the split, because a Europe that gets along with itself is good for world trade and saves us from having to end its wars.

Our post-GW2 policy should be to reward our friends and remind others that actions have consequences. Those last three words are not a euphemism for "punish our enemies"; France and Germany are democratic states, not our enemies, and no punishment is in store — only a withholding of rewards that fairly should go to those who joined freedom's cause.

Accordingly, the redeployment and reduction of our 120,000 troops in Europe — in the works for a year on sensible strategic grounds — will now take place apace. The First Armored Division, now in Iraq, won't return to German bases. Other U.S. troops and dependents will say "auf Wiedersehen" and learn to speak Polish, Romanian, Bulgarian and Hungarian.

Polish jokes are out; French jokes are in. Polish-American communities in Democratic strongholds of Michigan, Wisconsin, Connecticut and Illinois will beam with pride at the new strategic importance, and financial guarantees for new contracts, Bush directs to their land of origin. (Bechtel's decision to subcontract the Yucca Mountain nuclear-waste burial site to a French outfit instead of the British-American low bidder will come under close Congressional scrutiny.)

It makes sense to strengthen nations we trust. As we reward freedom's friends, future leaders in Berlin, Paris and Moscow will get the message that shortsighted political actions have long-term consequences.  

-By William Safire
New York Times Op-Ed Columnist

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/05/15/nyt.safire/

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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2003, 02:34:15 PM »
Nice.

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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2003, 04:21:17 PM »
LOL!!!!!

An new term for opurtunists!!! (spelling??)
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2003, 05:16:16 PM »
"Though our two nations have some common interests, our differences are deepening: Russia is still a one-party oligarchy with dissent stifled by state-run television and has shown an affinity for murderous dictators from the Balkans to the Persian Gulf.
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sorry..and where was the difference? Oh ya. the US is a two party system..other then that..

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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2003, 05:37:42 PM »
You really think the USA has state run media?

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2003, 12:07:50 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2003, 12:28:47 AM »
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You really think the USA has state run media?



More or less .. YES

If you don't think so wake up .. this is 'clear channel' country

Or maybe it's a media run state... chew on that..

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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2003, 12:49:00 AM »
Right manedew, you draw your comparsion based on your vast personal experience living in totalitarian countries with true state run media?  Check that... :rolleyes:

Me, coming to USA from a communist totalitarian country, thinks you guys are a bit spoiled and dont apprecite the things you have - I think you should wake up.

So its state run media, but it could also be a media run state - which is it, please settle on one conspiracy theory....

As an aside frankly I think the media did a fantastic job covering this war, the pro war crowd saw them as defeatist communists and the anti war crowd saw them as collusionist state run pigs. Truly, truly fine work!

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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2003, 08:47:44 AM »
US media can be biased towards the US (duh!).


However, theres this AWESOME little thing called "cable" which allows you to watch news agencies from the UK, South American countries and even watch chinese news broadcasts.

Oh, and then there's this "internet" thing which lets you read Al-Jazeera or CNN or The Congo Tribune.

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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2003, 10:35:44 AM »
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Right manedew, you draw your comparsion based on your vast personal experience living in totalitarian countries with true state run media?  Check that... :rolleyes:

Me, coming to USA from a communist totalitarian country, thinks you guys are a bit spoiled and dont apprecite the things you have - I think you should wake up.

So its state run media, but it could also be a media run state - which is it, please settle on one conspiracy theory....

As an aside frankly I think the media did a fantastic job covering this war, the pro war crowd saw them as defeatist communists and the anti war crowd saw them as collusionist state run pigs. Truly, truly fine work!


I agree with you 100%.  Many people in the US DON'T realize how good they have it.  

The media is biased.  That doesn't make it state run.  You can find American rags that spew out anti american crap.  Not many, though, since few people read them.  There isn't much of a demand for it.  Unless they start shipping to Canada and France.