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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2003, 12:14:22 AM »
Blanks do not produce recoil to anywhere near the same level of a regular shell. Virtually negligable.
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« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2003, 12:22:52 AM »
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hanging is long...i like the idea of being shot because you dont have time to squirm...nothing makes me feel more like **** than knowing someone had time to realise that there going to die and theres nothing they can do...then it comes...painfully...


My opinion is that if we don't have the stomach for public hanging, we probably should not be killing them in the first place.

And if hanging is done to specification, it breaks the spinal cord at the neck, rendering useless all motor ability.  ie. no squirming.  

Lethal injection just makes it easier for us, not the condemned.

And don't forget, hanging is the most environmentally friendly method {if done with a hemp rope}.  No poisons, no waste of energy, no biohazards.
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« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2003, 01:34:19 AM »
To those choosing the firing squad... I'm *still* curious... Why would you prefer that method over lethal injection? By the time the poisons got into your system and started wreaking havoc, you'd already be deep asleep. Compare that to the sometime horror stories in firing squad executions...and the fact that who knows at what point you actually lose consciousness.... well like I said, it seems like such a no-brainer that there must be something I'm not considering.

It's interesting to read here that Gary Gilmore (Utah) chose the firing squad. I read either 'The Executioner's Song' by Norman Mailer or 'In Cold Blood' by Truman Capote a while back... can't remember which... and I also can't remember why Gilmore chose the firing squad. Does anyone remember?

One more thing...  I thought for some reason that if the execution didn't succeed, you got to go free. Is that still a law? er... Was it ever?
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« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2003, 11:32:44 AM »
actually id probably just get a cyanide pill the moment i was put on death row...
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« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2003, 12:28:37 PM »
If anyone deserves to be shot,it seems those two gentlemen fit the bill. If I was one of the firing squad members,I'd go for a head shot.  ...just so I'd know I did'nt have the blank.
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« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2003, 12:36:41 PM »
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...can we say recoil?
Never fired a rifle before?  The range is not sufficient for a miss to be anything but an attempted miss.  Its not like they're using black powder rifles with open sites or compound bows.  At 50 yards even a novice should be able to produce less than 3" groups with any rifle.

I have no idea why someone would shoot to wound someone being executed... other than to torture him a bit.  How does not wanting to execute someone make it ok to maim him first?

Very strange.

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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2003, 11:55:30 PM »
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can't remember which... and I also can't remember why Gilmore chose the firing squad. Does anyone remember?


Yes, I remember.  Gilmore wanted to die rather than spend an indetermined number of years waiting.  He waived appeals that were available to him, and more or less committed assisted suicide by firing squad.  The other execution option available to him was a rope.
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« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2003, 12:04:12 AM »
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I saw a program on TV about the history of executions in the US.  Apparently, the problem with firing squads is that the shooters don't really want to kill anyone and aim to wound rather than kill.  They think that the others will make the fatal shot, but none do. The condemned can survive several attempts.  When this happens, it really does become cruel and unusual.



that's why they should use a 30mm rotating cannon...then use a hose to wash off the remains:p :eek:
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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2003, 01:19:43 AM »
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that's why they should use a 30mm rotating cannon...then use a hose to wash off the remains:p :eek:


Many B-17 crewmembers will kick your bellybutton in the afterlife.
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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2003, 01:22:28 AM »
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Many B-17 crewmembers will kick your bellybutton in the afterlife.


Imagine how many victims of 7.62mm rifles are there in the afterlife to kick the butts of the people proposing this firing squad...
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« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2003, 01:29:36 AM »
At least they did not make some poor sap hose their brain matter out of plexiglass!
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« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2003, 01:40:37 AM »
Will this thread ever die?
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« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2003, 01:49:50 AM »
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At least they did not make some poor sap hose their brain matter out of plexiglass!


Sure about that? Have you see what a full size 7.62mm rifle/mg round does to a human head?
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« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2003, 10:02:30 AM »
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Will this thread ever die?


By firing Squad, or by lethal injection?

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