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I've noticed that some in our community not only have the time, but the talent to produce some cool little films from AH guncam footage. I have neither the time nor the talent to do this.

Would anyone be interested in putting together some of these cool little films for use on the 13th TAS Website(currently under construction)?

Thanks

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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2003, 02:14:06 PM »
Might want to talk to ALF about that Rude
He makes some really great films :D

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2003, 03:15:41 PM »
Rgr and thanks....now how to get a hold of Alf:)

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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2003, 05:33:55 PM »
what do you think of these 2 films? :) the 8th airforce one i love particularly yet it was maybe my 4th attampt at throwing a film and sounds together.Its actually a lot of fun and not so difficult.

this is what i found was the easiest way to make them.

First download radtools which is 'bink and smacker' compression tool

Then get yourself a freebie wave editor like goldwave

then download an avi editor like AVIedit

When you use the aces high editor to find the parts of the film you want, you will have to learn to use zoom and pan 'live' as you are making your avi file.Its tricky but theres lots of happy accident pans and zooms that make it look cool.
When you make the avi's dont compress them and keep lots of room on your Hardrive (2 or 3 GB) for storing them.Basically i did several films of each event I liked using various angles etc so i ended up with 3 or 4 different pans or views of the same peice of action.

Use AVIedit to edit and crop the films into your prefered sequence, using the different films of the same events spliced together for that film like effect.
One your film is how you like it its time to make an mp3 of your favorite peice of music and try to make it tally with the film if you want to be really clever by timing things in the films and points on the sounds you add.

Once your film is finnished used bink and smacker to compress it whilst adding your mp3 to it. Bink mixes them and is so easy to use you hardly need to read any of the manual. Using sliders and toggles its easy to test compress a film from 10% to 100% compression resulting in a loss in quality but an excellent reduction in size, from GB's to tens of MB's.
Then if its to your liking you can re-run it through bink to compress it even further. When you find your personal ballance between quality of picture and size of file you can save the film out as a .bik file.

Anyone with bink can play it.There is also a way to make it playable as a stand alone film but its hardly worth it, files are much smaller if they stay .bik's . BINK and smacker is a popular compression tool used probably as much as DivX which i found couldnt match the bink for quality of picture and sound whilst keeping similar size files,DivX was much bigger and harder to learn to use.(WW2OL uses bink for their films)

try downloading radtools on the link at bottom of this page (or use this link:http://www.radgametools.com/bnkdown.htm)then you can use it to compress stuff or play .bik movies, it has no popup crap or adverts or anything like that and it has never causesd a single problem on my system so its a great free tool: the 2 films on here are jabo and mighty8th , both under 10 MB but long films and worth the download if you got cable or adsl etc.

Anyhow heres my 2 films: hope you like em :)

http://combatarena.users.btopenworld.com/Films.html

or download films direct:

'mighty 8th':
http://combatarena.users.btopenworld.com/images/B17s.bik
'luftwaffe jabo'
http://combatarena.users.btopenworld.com/images/JABO.bik
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2003, 05:36:05 PM »
Whats an ALF


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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2003, 05:55:23 PM »
Alf what codec do you use when you convert the .ahf files to .avi?



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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2003, 05:59:28 PM »
nice films ALF i watched the windows media ones. You should take a look at bink player too. check out its quality of picture. You files i noticed were large 14 to 22mb, i think bink could make the ssame quality picture for quite a few less MB. After i tried DivX and bink i realised divx was really not even close to matching bink.

see what you think of it. You notice my films were highly compressed down to @8mb and yet they were still very sharp in places.

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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2003, 07:14:17 PM »
**Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Encore, Encore Clap, Clap, Clap.**

Holy Cow, you must get paid for this.  Very nicely done Alf, can you teach me your editing tequniques in 30 min or less?  ;)  Your videos have a very polished look to them.  I would just love to put some clips to music.  Good Job, I liked all three of your films.

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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2003, 07:49:34 PM »
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Alf what codec do you use when you convert the .ahf files to .avi?
 


I have been using Intel Indeo for many of my films, but have started to use some mpeg4.  Use whatever works best for your system and software, the big thing is to keep quality VERY VERY high in that 1st conversion, so subsiquent editing and compression is still acceptable.

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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2003, 08:51:54 AM »
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Originally posted by ALF
I have been using Intel Indeo for many of my films, but have started to use some mpeg4.  Use whatever works best for your system and software, the big thing is to keep quality VERY VERY high in that 1st conversion, so subsiquent editing and compression is still acceptable.


Alf....you interested in helpin out poor old Rude?:)

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2003, 10:27:16 AM »
I make some cool ones....and if you need light sabers or other Star Wars effects, let me know  ;)

http://www.checksix.net/skuzzy.wmv

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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2003, 11:49:09 AM »
How about you LePaul...the ultimate irony, you helping your pal Rude:)

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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2003, 01:51:08 PM »
Oh stop your whining  :p

Won, what, 3 times?  Heck, I should do a documentary on the fine art of crafting a whine   ;)

I dunno, I feel another movie coming on....and Darth Rude has a nice sound to it   :eek:

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2003, 01:53:33 PM »
Cool...just give me a call on my cell at 913-208-3807 or email me your number at work or home at rude@13thtas.com

We can discuss the payscale:)

Thanks!