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« on: September 24, 2000, 08:15:00 PM »
Hey all, wanting to buy another book and thought I would ask for opinions. Here are some I am looking at.

Any suggestions?

1) Aces Against Japan: The American Aces Speak
by Eric Hammel
         
2) Dead Reckoning : Experiences of a World War II Fighter Pilot
by Alan K. Abner

3)Fighter Aces of the Luftwaffe (Schiffer Military/Aviation History)
by Raymond F. Toliver, Trevor J. Constable

4)Fire in the Sky : The Air War in the South Pacific
by Eric M. Bergerud

5)Gabby : A Fighter Pilot's Life (Schiffer Military History)
by Francis Gabreski, Carl Molesworth

6)I Flew for the Fuhrer
by Heinz Knoke

7)In My Sights : The Memoir of a P-40 Ace
by James B. Morehead

8)German Fighter Ace : Hans-Joachim Marseille : The Life Story of the 'Star of Africa'
by Franz Kurowski, Don Cox (Translator)

9)Luftwaffe Fighter Aces : The Jagdflieger and Their Combat Tactics and Techniques
by Mike Spick

10)Mustang Ace : Memoirs of a P-51 Fighter Pilot
by Robert J. Goebel

11)The Blond Knight of Germany
by Raymond F. Toliver, Trevor J. Constable

12)The First and the Last
by Adolf Galland

13)The Luftwaffe Fighter Force : The View from the Cockpit
by Adolf Galland (Editor), Dave C. Isby (Editor), Hitschhold, David C. Isby

14)To Fly and Fight : Memoirs of a Triple Ace
by Clarence E. Anderson, Joseph P. Hamelin, Chuck Yeager

any of you guys know these or can reccomend these books?

thx in advance, ammo

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2000, 08:17:00 PM »
just for you ammo:

Bovine Venereal Diseases - Symptoms and Cures.

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2000, 08:27:00 PM »
OK sorry, let me rephrase.. any opinions from adults about these books?

I gotta learn to be more specific.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2000, 08:41:00 PM »
add:

all of the Osprey Aircraft of the Aces series.

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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2000, 08:43:00 PM »
"Fire in the Sky" is incredible.

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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2000, 08:51:00 PM »
Hi Hooli, long time no see! hope your doin well
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2000, 09:51:00 PM »
I bought "The First and The Last" this summer. Great book.

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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2000, 10:45:00 PM »
I have read 3,5,6  and nine in your list.

I would recomend the mike spick book.
Its cheap and a nice over view of lw tactics.
It is a bit basic though.

If i were you i would check out the osprey collection.
Best bang for the buck.
Im currenly going thru the collection.

There are 2 must have books on HJM and hartmann that ive see in the us recently.
They are almost picture books more than bio's.
Im not sure the name but there out there and im geting both some time soon.
Both are must haves for any simers

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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2000, 12:23:00 AM »
Hi ammo.
I've read four on your list.  Here's what I thought:

Aces Against Japan:
 Awsome.  Lots of in the cockpit action.  A collection of scattered short accounts.  A very quick read that left me wanting more.  I want to find the others in this series.

I Flew for the Fuhrer:
  Very good.  An account of one man's fight in a 109 against endless stream after stream of B-17s.  He gets shot down many times and severely wounded a few times as well.  He also looses almost all of his friends and squadmates as they get chopped out of the sky.  A great story about what it was like flying every single day with not a lot of hope for a happy ending.  Pretty brutal book.

Luftwaffe Fighter Aces:
  Very good.  Mostly about tactics.  Not too much first person cockpit action.

Blonde Knight:
  Good.  His story is amazing and I think this book could have been more exciting.  I liked it but there just seems to be something missing.  It is also heartbreaking to see how close he came to avoiding capture by the Russians.  He surrendered to the US but was turned over to the Russians and ended up spending 10 years in a Russian heavy labor camp.  The last half of the book concerns this horrific piece of his young life.  


A few of my favorites not on your list:

Stuka Pilot by Hans Ulrich Rudel (I can't remember the spelling of his name)
  He destroyed over 500 tanks and flew the ageing Stuka through to the end of the war.  Hitler had to design a medal especially for him.  He gets shot down, captured, escapes, loses limbs, lands in a tree, etc.  An amazing story that should be made into a movie.

Flights of Passage by Samuel Hynes
  This is really strange choice because it is a book about an American dive bomber pilot who basically misses the war.  He goes on many missions but sees only a little action.  But the book is a poetic masterpiece.  This man loves to fly and his descriptions of every aspect of his training, flying, and fighting are superb.  I kept re-reading passages marvelling at his literary genius.  

Fighter Pilot (The First American Ace of World War II) by William R. Dunn
  A great book by a grizzled fighter pilot who flew Hurricanes, Spits, P-40s, P-47s, P-51s.  He also tested P-39s, P-38s, some others.  He gives his frank opions about each plane which is fascinating.  His writing style is great.  It is the opposite of Hynes (above)- No pretty language or poetry just factual accounts in plain english told with a straight face, most of the time.  Parts are quite funny and there is a really great description of his being shot down where he basically resigns himself to Death.

Hope that helps a little.  Forgive the length of the post.  

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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2000, 02:12:00 AM »
With the introduction of carrier ops in 1.05, some good books to get some info on it include (IMO at least, for what it is worth  )

1.  No Higher Honor
This is a fabulous book on the USS Yorktown from the beginning of the war to its sinking at the Battle of Midway.  Not specificly a book on airplanes and such, but very good in dealing with what it was like to be on a carrier in the middle of a battle.

2.  Miracle at Midway
I really like this book.  It covers the whole battle, even breaking it down to the minute in a time timetable in one of the appendices.  Lots of first hand accounts and some very good analysis.

Some other books that I have found that are pretty good general books:

3.  America's Aces in a Day
Covers every single American ace in a day from WW2.  Many firsthand accounts and after action report quotes.

4.  Messerschmidt Aces
Covers many German 109 aces.

5.  The Mighty Eighth
An collection of oral histories from 8th AF pilots, crewmen, ground crew, etc.  Kind of a little dry, but still very fascinating.

I know I have several others as well, but they are in a box at my parent's house :-(

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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2000, 12:58:00 PM »
Hi, I've read 1, 9, and 12. Can also recommend Eric Hammel's "Aces against Germany", Johnny Johnson's "Break, Blue Flight", and Pierre Clostermann's book, but I don't remember its name.

Also, if you can locate a copy, a "Double Fighter Knight" by Ilmari Juutilainen offers some nice recollections from the air war in Finland.

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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2000, 01:10:00 PM »
Point of Impact by Stephen Hunter (even though its not a WW2 book it still 0wns, kthx.)

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2000, 01:13:00 PM »

"Citizen Soldier" by  Ambrose.

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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2000, 01:30:00 PM »
Samurai, by Saburo Sakai

Fly for your life, by Larry Forrester about Robert Stanford Tuck

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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2000, 02:00:00 PM »
VMF-323 "Death Rattlers" by William Wolf, currently latest book I've read, I should take a snap shot of my office,you guys would die, I have probably over 700 books both hard back and soft, dealing with WW2 both ground and air units...an addiction I gave up when I stopped running a multi-axis Numerical Control machine (had 8 hours a day to read!)