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Offline BGBMAW

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« on: November 04, 2003, 02:15:29 PM »
...so do people still use these to avoid speediing tickest??

im in california..My ride likes to cruise between 85-100..its just about 2, ooo rpm in fiftgh gear..it just likes that speed..but speedlimits usaaly 65 here..


can i do anything w/ a radar detector..do they work and which ones?


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just got ny first tiket in new ride...81 in a 65..i fkng had my cruise control on ..(a night)   i was at 73mph..wen to pass a few peopl..went 81 mph..motocycle cop saw me..arghhhhhhh

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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2003, 02:17:43 PM »
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just got ny first tiket in new ride...81 in a 65..i fkng had my cruise control on ..(a night)   i was at 73mph..wen to pass a few peopl..went 81 mph..motocycle cop saw me..arghhhhhhh


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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2003, 02:19:47 PM »
radar detectors are illegal in a lot of places...check that out first before getting one...

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2003, 02:25:29 PM »
I use a Bel 985 with a 904 Laserpro Jammer.

You need to research what you local cops use. In NZ is primarily Laser and Ka band now. But I understand the US is mostly K Band.

Do NOT buy a 'cordless' radar detector, they lose craploads of sensitivity.

Brands to go for are Bel, Escort, and the Valentines. Anything else is pretty much a waste of time.

I buy all my gear from http://www.radarbusters.com (I've brought some in for friends). I can't recommend this guy highly enough, service and support is beyond awesome. I bought an Escort cordless from him, found it was weak on Ka detection, he accepted it back and offered up a full refund (I ordered a Bel off him), and modified his webpage to not recommend this model for NZ.

If you're gonna buy a jammer avoid that Rocky Mountain crap, its garbage. The Escort and Bel Laser jammers are good, mine has saved me craploads (our cops have a very low speeding tolerance, +5 km/h and you get a ticket).

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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2003, 02:32:18 PM »
Valentine One

It's a radar locator, not just a detector.  Gives you direction, type, and number of bogeys.  Also they have an upgrade program when they improve firmware and hardware, so you can keep your unit current.

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2003, 02:41:33 PM »
Yeah the Valentine One is great.. However, I have a Bell Cordless one I keep in the Miata. It works very well and doesn't lose much sensitivity when the battery goes low infact mine chirps when the battery reach's a certain point. And I replace them right a way...

I have a V-1 but only use it on long distant trips as it's too expensive to have it stolen outta the car with the top down. when i leave it unattended.

I'd buy the Valentine One if were you.

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2003, 02:41:42 PM »
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radar detectors are illegal in a lot of places...check that out first before getting one...



that can be beat.  these local ordanances go against federal law. (the fcc stuff about being allowed to recieve any signal sent.  basicly regulation is on the guy generating a signal not the guy recieving it,  since all a detector is doing is listening for a signal they can't be banned)

I had te passport until my jeep was broken into this summer,  will probably get another soon.

it doesn't catch everything and it almost never will save you on lazer (I did have a luck save where I picked up the lazer signal when he hit the car in front of me, I locked up the brakes and had slowed from 105 to 65 before the van in front of me gave him a clear shot)

so it's a hit and miss sort of thing.  don't let it fool you into thinking you can drive faster than you would normally,  and if it does don't be dumb enough to admit it. (this is also the only way they can enforce the ban, if you admit that you thought you where safe so where driving fast, then they can say you where using the detector to enable you to comit a crime,  they can ban that).

officially my radar detector isn't there to avoid getting tickets.  it's to warn me when an officer is checking my speed so that I can be aware in case he writes a ticket,  that way I can begin to look for deffensive evedence at the same time he's looking for incriminating evidence (no point giving him a headstart).

  also many of the newer ones have emergancy vehicle locators.  these work in 2 ways.  1 kind reads the signals that some emergency vehicles use to turn the lights green.  the other (as it was explained to me) tunes in on a signal between the cops handset and his car(I was told some use the car as a relay point between the radio he caries and the station.)
regardless of how it works it does work, I usually get an alarm 20 or 30 seconds before I'm close enough to hear the sirens on a firetruck or ambulance  (on the freeway).  this is another way around local bans as it is a piece of saftey equipment.  
so make sure you get this feature, it will help you beat the ticket if you get caught in a place that has tried to ban them, and you will sometimes get the vehicle locator going off, slow down, go around a corner and get hit with the lazer.  it's handy to know where he's at even if his speed equipment isn't active

but like I said, don't count on them.  not all cars have the beacons to trip the vehicle locator, so in that case his gun needs to be active, and most cops are smart enough to not just leave the gun on.  lazer is a one shot at a time deal and leaves nothing for you to pick up.  if your lazer detector does anything other than let you know that you just got a ticket you're damn lucky.

all that aside a decent detector is only about $75.  I had mine for 4 years and in that time it saved me from about 6 tickets that I'm sure of and I have no idea how many that I slowed down after the signal but never did see the cop (doesn't mean he wasn't there).

at a price of anywhere from $180-$350 per ticket on the freeway I figure it's has more than paid for itself.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2003, 02:42:30 PM »
Radar detectors are such a life saver.  Mine can pick up radar at over a mile.  It has several different tones, so I can tell if a cop is stationary, behind me, or in front of me coming at me.  

I cruise at about 80, but when I get some tones on the radar, I casually slow down and slip behind another car.  I've never had a ticket.

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2003, 02:44:02 PM »
It's been a while since I was in Cali, but they (CHP) did not use radar, only locals did. CHP would clock your speed between fixed points. This may have changed since laser has been introduced.:confused:
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2003, 02:47:22 PM »
Laser detectors are useless, unless you happen to be between the car the cop is tracking and the cop.

All laser guns that I have used give a reading within a half second.  And unless the cop is trying to track a car a mile away, there is no beam for you to detect.  (Unless you are the speeder that is....and how fast can you slow down in a half second?)

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2003, 02:51:26 PM »
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It's been a while since I was in Cali, but they (CHP) did not use radar, only locals did. CHP would clock your speed between fixed points. This may have changed since laser has been introduced.:confused:



The CHP can and do use radar. In the past, they had a policy of not purchasing any, but if the local government wished to provide them with the equipment, they would use it. Nowadays, I think they actually purchase them.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2003, 02:52:42 PM »
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It has several different tones, so I can tell if a cop is stationary, behind me, or in front of me coming at me.


How? AFAIK, the transmitted signal does not change if the shooter is in motion (or not).
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2003, 02:53:48 PM »
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Laser detectors are useless, unless you happen to be between the car the cop is tracking and the cop.

All laser guns that I have used give a reading within a half second.  And unless the cop is trying to track a car a mile away, there is no beam for you to detect.  (Unless you are the speeder that is....and how fast can you slow down in a half second?)



FWIW, the radar is more accurate. It measures doppler. The laser measures speed by ranging to the target.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2003, 02:56:06 PM »
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How? AFAIK, the transmitted signal does not change if the shooter is in motion (or not).


It's just a direction finder/signal stregnth meter.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2003, 02:59:13 PM »
capt. apathy: that can be beat.  these local ordanances go against federal law. (the fcc stuff ...  since all a detector is doing is listening for a signal they can't be banned)


 Has nothing to do with FCC. Localities can outlaw anything they want to.
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