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Offline AKDejaVu

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« on: November 01, 2000, 06:05:00 PM »
Why?

Take a look at Aper's stats for tour9.

628th?

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2000, 06:22:00 PM »
Who the heck is Aper?  I think the scoring system gives emphasis to bomber sorties as well when giving overall rank, and he has all of 4 bomber sorties.  Check out my score...hell, I'm a dweeb, and I'm ranked 44th, but I've had 94 bomber sorties and Jabo all the time, so my object damage is higher by leaps and bounds.

Since it's an overall ranking based on damage inflicted on the enemy plus things like gunnery and k/d ratio, etc...the way it is now would be correct, no?  Maybe we could have a different ranking for strictly fighter rankings?  I think the data's already there, you just have to go to each specific pilot's score page to see their rankings in various areas, instead of having  a listing of the top 100.


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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2000, 06:24:00 PM »
Great fighter stats!

If he cares to rank higher "Overall", he should try dropping a bomb or two.  Also wouldn't hurt to shuttle some troops.

The key word is overall.
He and everyone else knows that he kicks butt in a fighter.

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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2000, 06:25:00 PM »
Points are uber and should be done away with.... <evi grin>

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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2000, 06:47:00 PM »
Hi

Bomber, Goon, and tank driving, figures heavily in the oerall score.


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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2000, 07:26:00 PM »
 
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I think the scoring system gives emphasis to bomber sorties as well when giving overall rank, and he has all of 4 bomber sorties.

Ah.. OK.. you MUST fly bomber missions.  If he'd dropped one bomb on one target he'd probably be ranked in the top 20.  I'm sure that merrits the move up the score chain.

 
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Since it's an overall ranking based on damage inflicted on the enemy plus things like gunnery and k/d ratio, etc...the way it is now would be correct, no?

So.. if I take a bomber up every sortie, then fly over HQ at 30k and drop all of my bombs on it.. then RTB without even causing more than 20% damage to the building I should have a higher score than any fighter pilot?  Hmmmm.

Its time to separate bomber and fighter scores.  Or find an equitable way to rank those that fly fighters against those that don't.  Right now that doesn't exist.

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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2000, 07:51:00 PM »
To get a bomber score you dont have to fly the bombers, go do a couple of Jabo runs these will count as bomber ratings, and of course helping your team with some Goonie drops not only develops you as a team player but will help your score/rating.
Personally i have never flown a bomber ie B17, B26 , Ju etc. All my bomber missions have been Jabo and dive bombing.
Of course a different skill may be needed to actually get to the target in one piece but once you drop your eggs feel free to sweep on the way home.

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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2000, 07:56:00 PM »
Of course stats are porked

aper, hblair, udie, nathbdp, camo all suck isn stats but are best pilots  

score means nothing as i have said so many times before

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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2000, 09:04:00 PM »
There's a scoring system?

 


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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2000, 09:53:00 PM »
sheesh, what a buncha scorepotato whiners....

 




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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2000, 10:25:00 PM »
   
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
Ah.. OK.. you MUST fly bomber missions. If he'd dropped one bomb on one target he'd probably be ranked in the top 20. I'm sure that merrits the move up the score chain.

So.. if I take a bomber up every sortie, then fly over HQ at 30k and drop all of my bombs on it.. then RTB without even causing more than 20% damage to the building I should have a higher score than any fighter pilot?  Hmmmm.

Its time to separate bomber and fighter scores.  Or find an equitable way to rank those that fly fighters against those that don't.  Right now that doesn't exist.

AKDejaVu


Did ya read my post at all DJ?  My point was that the current pilot ranking is for your overall performance, not only figher vs. fighter.  Didn't agree or disagree with ya, just pointed that out, and made a suggestion for a seperate fighter ranking...sheesh.


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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2000, 10:39:00 PM »
Hi

The overall score thing is ok and it has its place. But since the sim is called Aces High, why not add a seperate fighter specific ranking structure. This would favor K/D ratio, K/Sortie ration, and the overall number of kills, that hit %, and time thing, but basically a score/rank list based just on fighter work. Plus It be great to have some kind of current best kill streak, tallied mission after mission even if no hot refuel, but stopped after ur shot down including if u bail succesfully. Otherwise your just likeky to get ur chute strafed if he finds out ur #1 kill streak guy. Put this someplace visible like the AH home page, so the they get some recognition of their hard work. Anyone else think this could work?

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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2000, 10:52:00 PM »
You should not have to fly goons or drive tanks or anything like that to get better rankings or be considered a "team" player.

If someone is a killer fighter pilot, I don't think it is in a countries best interests to have that person flying a goon. I would rather have that person escorting the goon to make sure it gets where it is going.

It would be nice to have the rankings seperated by fighters, bombers, ground vehicles, etc. After all, in real war, fighter pilots didn't fly bombers or drive tanks.



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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2000, 11:13:00 PM »
 
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My point was that the current pilot ranking is for your overall performance

No.. I don't believe it is.  If the system requires you to fly certain aircraft, it is flawed.  It is no longer based on PERFORMANCE, but rather some easy to manipulate formula.

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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2000, 12:21:00 AM »
Well, whatever...you're arguing with yourself here.  I was just telling ya how I thought the scoring system works, but perhaps I was wrong.  For me, score runs just behind accurately modeled sheep in order of importance.  Good luck gettin' what ya want.


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