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Offline Sixpence

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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2003, 08:08:32 PM »
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But he DID stay in office.  

He was elected by the people.  If he broke the law, then suitable punishment should be issued.   He works for the people, he should be fired by them.


Who was it that removed him?
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(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2003, 08:17:37 PM »
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He clearly violated the establishment clause of the 1st amendment.


This wasn't the issue any longer. The attorney general stated that Moore flagrantly disobeyed a court order.

He asked for it... he got it.
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2003, 08:21:54 PM »
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Who was it that removed him?


Judiciary ethics committee

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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2003, 08:23:13 PM »
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It absolutely does: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

No, it says the states cannot .

"Furthermore, the Court has interpreted, the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment as protecting the rights in the First Amendment from interference by state governments" which would include the establishment cause


 The states have powers except those expressly forbidden - thus unlimited.


From what I read of it, it is said that the states cannot promote religion

http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/first_amendment.html

This is what the courts have interpeted and ruled on, Miko's or sixpence interpetation is irrelevant

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im not good with the bold letter stuff
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2003, 08:23:57 PM »
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Judiciary ethics committee


What(who) consists of this commitee?
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(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2003, 08:26:20 PM »
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What(who) consists of this commitee?


Do the research yourself.  I'm not playing 20 questions with you.  If you have something to say, say it.

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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2003, 08:26:57 PM »
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Do the research yourself.  I'm not playing 20 questions with you.  If you have something to say, say it.


c'mon, humor me.
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(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2003, 08:31:45 PM »
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c'mon, humor me.


This is your last freebie.  After this you have to stop being the typical liberal, and educate yourself before you spout off.

The Court of the Judiciary is made up of lawyers, judges, etc and can be appointed by judges, governor, etc.  They aren't elected.  They aren't representative of the people.
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2003, 08:37:19 PM »
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Being elected does not put you above the law. I voted for Clinton, but I do not believe he should have stayed in office after lying to a grand jury. You know where that would have landed us.


Was the whole matter from the beginning worth the money and trouble?

With such a determination alot more useful things could be digged up from Bush Jr., something which really would affect politics.

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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2003, 08:38:48 PM »
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Was the whole matter from the beginning worth the money and trouble?

With such a determination alot more useful things could be digged up from Bush Jr., something which really would affect politics.


Yeah?  Like what?

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« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2003, 08:39:06 PM »
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This is your last freebie.

The Court of the Judiciary is made up of lawyers, judges, etc and can be appointed by judges, governor, etc.  They aren't elected.  They aren't representative of the people.


Ok, that was what I was getting at. I was under the impression they were in the same capacity as he was.

I am having a web confrence with my brother and trying to do both with yahoo mess and msn mess, msn keeps crashing. So while I am trying to type and read, he is *****ing at me that I am not listening. So having you answer was making it easier.

And trying to reply to Miko at the same time.
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(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2003, 08:41:54 PM »
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Was the whole matter from the beginning worth the money and trouble?

With such a determination alot more useful things could be digged up from Bush Jr., something which really would affect politics.


That is not the point, Bush didn't lie to a grand jury, it has nothing to do about Bush. Clinton lied to a grand jury, period. And he did that in capacity as the pres. You cannot run a country without credibility. He broke the law.

I'll add to that, what he did with lewinsky is not the issue. he who lives in glass houses should not throw stones(is that applicable?)

But I assume it is safe to say none of us here has lied to a jury.
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"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2003, 08:43:34 PM »
Are you all aware that ever session of the Senate starts with Prey? And the Senate has a clergyman on staff to do this.

And the Supreme Court of the US has the Ten Commandments on the wall over the bench at which they sit.

And  placing the commandments in the lobby of the court house is not “state sectioned religion”

When that was writing membership in the Church of England was mandatory.
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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2003, 09:04:16 PM »
"If his removal stands, Gov. Bob Riley would appoint a new chief justice to finish the term, which expires in 2006. "

Why does he get to appoint a new one? Is this some provision if the justice gets removed?
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(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2003, 09:06:30 PM »
http://www.judicial.state.al.us/judiciary.cfm

So actually there is representation of the people.

The Court of the Judiciary is created consisting of one judge of an appellate court, other than the Supreme Court, who shall be selected by the Supreme Court and shall serve as Chief Judge of the Court of the Judiciary; two judges of the circuit court, who shall be selected by the Circuit Judges' Association; and one district judge who shall be selected by the District Judges' Association.
 Other members of the Court of the Judiciary shall consist of two members of the state bar, who shall be selected by the governing body of the Alabama State Bar; two persons who are not lawyers who shall be appointed by the Governor; and one person appointed by the Lieutenant Governor.
Members appointed by the Governor and Lieutenant Governor shall be subject to Senate confirmation before serving. Provided, however, that on January 1, 2005, the appointment authority granted to the Lieutenant Governor shall revert to the Governor and the Governor shall therefore be entitled to appoint three persons who are not lawyers, subject to Senate confirmation.

 The court shall be convened to hear complaints filed by the Judicial Inquiry Commission. The court shall have authority, after notice and public hearing (1) to remove from office, suspend without pay, or censure a judge, or apply such other sanction as may be prescribed by law, for violation of a Canon of Judicial Ethics, misconduct in office, failure to perform his duties, or (2) to suspend with or without pay, or to retire a judge who is physically or mentally unable to perform his duties. Taken from the Constitution of Alabama of 1901, Amendment 581, §6.18.
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"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)