Author Topic: Missing Girl in S. Dakota - Moral Dilema?  (Read 3323 times)

Offline Dune

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« on: December 04, 2003, 11:27:04 AM »
Suspect in Dru Sjodin's disapperance is talking with police.

Question: You have a girl who has been kidnapped and perhaps sexually abused.  She is missing.  She may be dead, or perhaps she's tied up somewhere.  The police have the man they believe did the crime (for the moment let's even forget he has an extensive history of sexual crimes).  If she's alive, she might not be after too long with cold weather and possibly no food or water.

So, what steps do you take to find out where she is?  Mind you, there is no conviction/certain proof your suspect knows at all.  But you think he does.  What do you do to try and save her life before she starves to death in some closet somewhere?

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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2003, 11:39:03 AM »
Let the girl's relatives question him, privately.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2003, 11:41:25 AM »
If he is cooperating, I would assume he has said where she is...so then the recovery should be quicker, yes?

Im at a loss...they have the guy, reported, he's talking...but no girl.  So what did he do with her and where is she?

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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2003, 11:46:52 AM »
I was going to say threaten him with the death penalty if the victim dies, but it looks like S. Dakota has not executed anyone in the last 30 years.

AKIron's plan sounds good.

==Edit===

Nevermind.  The girl was from North Dakota, not South.  ND does not have the death penalty.  Neither does Minnesota, where the suspect was arrested.
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2003, 11:56:09 AM »
Brushing off my "Law and Order" expertise... Cut him a deal centered on her being recovered alive. Or, If it's just a case of finding the body, I would wait and try to find it without his help and develop evidence from there. He's a repeat offender in a type of crime that shows very poor rehabilitation rates, this was obviously premeditated (if he's guilty) and the next step should be an injection if the death penalty is legal in the state.[not an option here. Since any deal would likely focus on life vs. some possibility of parole, It's a tough one. Is there any leverage for solitary confinement (as opposed to the genral population abuses) or some other incentive that can be attractive to him but never let him back out on the street?]

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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2003, 11:58:26 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2003, 12:15:25 PM »
Start cutting off toes, then fingers, then genitals, then limbs, until he squawks.

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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2003, 12:22:02 PM »
Start with the genitals.

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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2003, 12:24:33 PM »
Let him spend the night in a maximum security prison in a cell with the meanest guy in the place.

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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2003, 12:42:07 PM »
They have good reasons to believe that he was involved - phone conversations and all that. As such, I believe, that court issued order to drug his bellybutton up to make him talk would be very much in order.

However, some of the suggestions being thrown around here are bit over the side, nothing has been proven yet, innocent until proven guilty still applies.

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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2003, 12:44:50 PM »
what if you have cut off all his toes and fingers and genitals and someone else confesses?  or.. worse yet... she shows up at home and it's all a big joke?

who's fingers, toes and genitals do we then cut off?

same for leaving him to the tender mercies of the family.

for one of the few times here... I agree with fdski...  we should pass a LAW that allows questioning under drugs in situations where a life is in danger and could be saved by such an action.

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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2003, 12:46:06 PM »
Spoilsport.  They can always reattach those toes.

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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2003, 12:58:09 PM »
drug him, use the info to locate the girl, then throw out all the info you gathered as inadmissable in court.

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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2003, 02:10:19 PM »
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
drug him, use the info to locate the girl, then throw out all the info you gathered as inadmissable in court.


Then start cutting off toes etc.

I like it.  ;)
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2003, 02:18:03 PM »
He's a three-time convicted rapist.  He should have been killed already.  Do whatever you need to do to him to get him to give the location of the body/live person, then finish him off quickly.
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