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Offline Martlet

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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2003, 08:02:21 AM »
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yes you do. they are thinking about the next mcviegh. sometimes terrorism begins at home. why was rumsveld so protected on his visit to iraq? he had the most body armor technology could provide. was it our troops or iraqis they were protecting him from?


Protection is completely different than screening.  Read any of the accounts that were written by people that were actually there.  Units were invited, and had no idea he was showing up.  Some officers were invited last minute.

That's an odd type of screening.

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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2003, 12:51:02 PM »
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Originally posted by miko2d

 The hours would have been extended if those soldiers were told "President Bush is in now, so you can eat with him or come in later anytime within five hours after the usual closing time".

 What they were said was "You are not good enough to dine in the president's presence, go away and do not come back untill 9 p.m.".

 miko



Miko,

Why would you put yourself in a position to determine what was said, you were not there, only repeating reported bias propaganda.

When I was in the service no chow hall could seat everyone it served at one time, I guess many were turned away due to no empty seats. But atlas I was not there, and as you, can only speculate.

I consider you too refined and intelligent to allow your hate to cloud your reason, please do not take this away.

When you quote the Washington Post, you run the risk of subscribing to there narrow-mindedness and closed issue reporting . I always take the Post with much salt; it's kind of like using Limbaugh as an only source of fact. The cadence of the article says it all read the way it starts out and then as you get to the end how it softens the seaming accusations, knowing full well many will never get to the end of the article. I would be interested to see where they broke the report and took it to another page. This is classic slanted journalism and is done by to many liberal arts folks these days.  



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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2003, 02:48:22 PM »
What's a neocon anyway?  I see the word everywhere, but no one bothers to define it.

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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2003, 02:53:14 PM »
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What's a neocon anyway?  I see the word everywhere, but no one bothers to define it.


I think its an attempt to link Neo-Nazi and Conservative through prefix association.

Bush is Hitler, remember?

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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2003, 03:03:05 PM »
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I think its an attempt to link Neo-Nazi and Conservative through prefix association.

Bush is Hitler, remember?

That's what I thought.

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« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2003, 03:11:02 PM »
1 entry found for neo-conservative.
ne·o·con·ser·va·tism also ne·o-con·ser·va·tism    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (n-kn-sūrv-tzm)
n.
An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s: “The neo-conservatism of the 1980s is a replay of the New Conservatism of the 1950s, which was itself a replay of the New Era philosophy of the 1920s” (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).  
 
From dictionary.com.

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« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2003, 08:29:54 PM »
Scootter: Miko, Why would you put yourself in a position to determine what was said,...

 I am basing my opinion on the quote from the soldier. If a quote was fabricated or if Sgt. Russel lied or exagerated - i've been fooled. I will readily admit that if some evidence is presented.
 I only argued with you that based on this quote - not on any other text in the article - the meal was postponed, not expended for some soldiers and they were really pissed with it.

 Yes I am speculating - but not whether the soldiers were turned away and pissed, only on whether Sgt. Russel's account is a real deal. The rest is verbatim from him.

ra: What's a neocon anyway?

Saurdaukar: I think its an attempt to link Neo-Nazi and Conservative through prefix association.

 In fact it is a self-attributed label, not a slander invented by others.

 miko