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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2003, 04:34:35 PM »
Faced with the question: "Why are 9 out of the 10 most influential/important aircraft according to this poll of American design?" we can produce two options for a response.

1.)  Because Americans designed 9 out of the 10 most influential/important aircraft according to this poll.

2.)  Because of a vast American black ops conspiracy designed to rob credit from other countries who brought forth such notible designs as the Potez 630 and the C.101 Aviojet.  Granted these aircraft did not take part in the Berlin Airlift, carry millions of passengers, or escort bombers into Germany, but they should be included just to make it fair.

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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2003, 04:39:09 PM »
WTF is the Jenny doing on this list?  And why have both the DC-3 and B314?  MSNBC shows itself to be the paragon of mediocrity once again.

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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2003, 04:45:22 PM »
Wright Flier didn't make the top 10?
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2003, 04:45:28 PM »
The top 10 of a snobby armchair aviation buff:

1.  Wright flyer (duh)
2.  P-51
3.  Bf-109
4.  B-17
5.  Me-262
6.  B-52
7.  Spitfire
8.  He-111
9.  MiG-15
10.  C-47

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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2003, 04:59:31 PM »
1.  Wright Flyer
2.  Sopwith Camel or Fokker Triplane
3.  P-51
4.  Me 262
5.  X-1 (rocket sure but broke sound barrier in level flight first)
6.  Avro Arrow (alot learned from this plane is used today)
7.  F15 eagle (air to air record speaks for itself
8.  C47
9.  B17
10. B2 or F117 (stealth needs mention in top 100)

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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2003, 05:17:14 PM »
Its funny how I saw nearly every airplane on everyones list last Monday.

My #1 would be the A-6 Intruder, but then again thats me;)
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2003, 05:24:12 PM »
nobody thought of Zero ?

how about Il-2 ?

both Sopwith Camel and Fokker Dr.I were icons of an era...same with Spitfire, Bf 109 and P 51 (which made to the list)

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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2003, 05:29:19 PM »
Military planes should be of little importance on the list.  99% of the planes in the world neither shoot missles or drop bombs.

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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2003, 06:03:30 PM »
heres my thinking, not saying all these should be on the list, but atleast get a mention: -

Sopwith Camel (most kills in WWI) or Se5a which was just as good.

As for the fokker triplane it was not really ground breaking (was copied from sopwith triplane) nor was it that great unless in the hands of a brilliant pilot.

DeHavilland Comet? the first jet airliner

Harrier

suprised no one has mentioned Boeing 737 or 747.

cant really take the list seriously when it doesnt include the wright flyer or bleriot.

Concorde gotta be there really :D

As for B-17 some would argue that the B-24 was better, Lancaster more versatile, B-29 more groundbreaking in terms of tech.

F-117? first stealth plane into service?

depends on judging criteria really.
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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2003, 07:40:47 PM »
What about this one?

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« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2003, 07:46:30 PM »
"Sorry, but this is an "Isn't America great?" article and deserves due contempt."

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« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2003, 07:47:50 PM »
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Originally posted by skernsk
1.  Wright Flyer
2.  Sopwith Camel or Fokker Triplane
3.  P-51
4.  Me 262
5.  X-1 (rocket sure but broke sound barrier in level flight first)
6.  Avro Arrow (alot learned from this plane is used today)
7.  F15 eagle (air to air record speaks for itself
8.  C47
9.  B17
10. B2 or F117 (stealth needs mention in top 100)


An F-18 for your avatar and you don't mention a Hornet?
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« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2003, 07:48:59 PM »
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Originally posted by SunTracker
Military planes should be of little importance on the list.  99% of the planes in the world neither shoot missles or drop bombs.


Military aircraft serve as test beds for technology used in civilian aircraft.

In short, without the need for rapid devlopment of capable bomb droppers, we'd have been using piston engined aircraft exclusively well into the 60's.

So yes, military aircraft are extremely important.

PS:  Agree with the Camel or Fokker - cant believe I forgot about one/both of those.

Definately should be on the list.

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« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2003, 07:49:02 PM »
Spitfire708,

I was thinking the same thing, the F-16 should be up there, its the most beutiful AC ever :)
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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2003, 08:10:07 PM »
my list:
1.   Wright Flyer – only powered, winged aircraft to hold endurance, altitude, speed, gross weight, and time to climb records simultaneously (well first anyway) and represented the entire fleet of aircraft in its day.
2.   Sopwith Camel: - most kills in WW1
3.   Curtiss Jenny: Trained an entire generation of pilots
4.   Douglas DC-3 First modern airliner, and when drafted into military service became one of the four most important machines to help the allied victory.
5.   F-86 / MiG 15 (tie) First decent jet fighters.  (The Me-262 had a engine TBO of like 10 hours)
6.   Bell X-1: the entire fleet of SS aircraft in its day.
7.   Boeing B-47: Became the prototype for virtually all the commercial jet fleet
8.   Boeing 707: Opened jet passenger traffic to moderate incomes. (Comet didn’t last)
9.   Boeing 747: More passengers carried on 747 that any other aircraft.  33 years of 400+ passengers.
10.   Bell UH1-Huey:  The C-47 of helicopters.
11.   Honorable mention A-10.  Has a mean bellybutton gun.
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