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Offline Sway

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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2003, 01:41:08 AM »
Had some good duels with Wldthing on film, but its all on fried computer.  Its a good matchup. :D

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« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2003, 02:40:43 AM »
Page #67  Shaw's book i believe :cool:
"Fighter Combat" required reading if really into this kinda thing

My Fav ACM,,, too bad my gunnery sucks,
old man gets a bit jittery takin shots like that when they right there after overshoot
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2003, 02:46:03 PM »
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Had some good duels with Wldthing on film, but its all on fried computer.  Its a good matchup. :D


*cough*

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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2003, 03:08:05 PM »
WT is your avatar P51 aces?
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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2003, 10:28:48 PM »
So True~ .........:lol Hehehe Manx!!!

 Hey Skull12 :)

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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2003, 10:40:20 PM »
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WT is your avatar P51 aces?


Yes Sir.

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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2003, 10:42:34 PM »

btw good read for reversals this thread is.
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2003, 12:01:59 AM »
Come cough in H2h Pal ;)  Im poor :D

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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2003, 12:25:41 AM »
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Come cough in H2h Pal ;)  Im poor :D


Nah.. I might get a cold ;)   Plus these days dont have much time for even the online world.

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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2003, 12:43:54 AM »
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I've got some film for you Wldthing. ;)


I dunno if I would wanna see those.. Sounds kinda..

gay. :)

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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2003, 02:16:51 AM »
Nah, made sure i saved those on a disc.  Loaded them on new computer a week ago. ;)

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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2003, 12:31:30 PM »
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too bad my gunnery sucks, old man gets a bit jittery takin shots like that when they right there after overshoot


You and me both, I'll get the reverse and then the "yips" start...
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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2003, 02:06:46 PM »
Yes......I Feel the Same :)

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« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2003, 08:47:17 PM »
Shaking someone on my six is typically pretty hard depending on what the attacker is flying.  Snap rolls tend to work very well on aircraft with alot of energy.  Thats a matter of timing the roll properly cause if you don't your toast.

One of the maneuvers I've found works best on an aircraft with slightly more energy and less turning ability is as follows.  Most tend to come in on me in a lead pursuit position.  That makes the maneuver even more effective.  Especially against aircraft with nose mounted weapons.  I'll allow them to keep there lead turn fairly steady as they approach.  During this time I'm gently pulling back the stick in the bank and loading them up. Don't wanna do to much during the bank or else they'll predict whats next.  Once they're within around 500 or less I pull harder into the turn and adjust slightly nose up to spoil deflection solution, bring the the aircraft to roll wings level then into the vertical climb. After a second or so I go inverted reaquire the target and complete a barrell roll back down onto there six.  Also during this period I'm adjusting my throttle back slightly during closure, full on in the vertical then chopped back while inverted and reaquiring the target.  

Don't try this one against a turner unless your positive of there energy state and deceleration capabilities.  If not they'll saddle up or you'll even possibly be in scissors fight.

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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2004, 02:24:54 AM »
^ Once again the defensive lag displacement roll, sweet move
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