Author Topic: "style" comparissons... (Read 3776 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 01, 2004, 11:46:11 AM »

face it guys... festers map is the most popular in the series and... the most fun... take the 25% fuel thing out and it would be perfect...

even so... with 25% I was able to get to the fight in an FM2... kill a couple of guys (or be killed) and get home... just couldn't stay as ong as I liked... the 25% fuel thing just made me RTB more often... a real useless pain.. didn't help "strat" in any way.

In festers map a lot of people are having low level furball fun... it must be a lot because the numbers online exceed every other map and.. the hordes are fighting..

watch the message board... kill messages after kill messages... on the abortions like pizza you can go forever with seeing nothing but chat. and complaining about being bored or this guy or that running or... well.. bad stuff.

mini di... I am sorry that you are short... I can't do anything about being taller than you and I feel for you for getting your butt kicked on the other bourd by...... A GIRL! And... it really isn't my fault the pizza map is so disliked... it is disliked because.... it's crappy and unfun 90% of the time. it could be fixed...

lazs

SOB · « **Reply #31 on:** January 01, 2004, 12:01:36 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
even so... with 25% I was able to get to the fight in an FM2... kill a couple of guys (or be killed) and get home... just couldn't stay as ong as I liked... the 25% fuel thing just made me RTB more often... a real useless pain.. didn't help "strat" in any way.

Yeah yeah, go ahead and blame it on the fuel. You'd have time for a few more kills if you'd just duke it out until you ran out of juice and then did a nose plant. Ya big sissy.

lazs2 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 01, 2004, 12:10:17 PM »

sob... you are correct... I have become mellow and cautious in my old age. At this rate I will probly be driving one of those new mini cooper things or a volvo station wagon in a couple of decades.

When the arthiritus gets too bad I will even buy a 9mm and a holster for my walker for it.

lazs

SOB · « **Reply #33 on:** January 01, 2004, 12:19:54 PM »

Toad · « **Reply #34 on:** January 01, 2004, 12:25:22 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
to pork a whole front back to 25% because it's so damn easy on maps like QWW(1) and Children's, and can be done so quickly. That's what comes of having the fields too close together.

No, that's what comes when the destruction/resupply player effort equation is completely out of balance and destruction takes a minimal percentage of the player time that resupply requires.

It's ok, Beet... you've been slowly sliding to our side of the argument for some time. Ask Tomato about "Shifty" again.

I can wait; you'll come around.

Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkkkkke.

beet1e · « **Reply #35 on:** January 01, 2004, 12:44:44 PM »

I very rarely see 25% fuel porkage on the pizza map at the times I play. But I see it all the time on Children's, QWW(1), and the more congested areas of QWW(2).

lazs2 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 01, 2004, 01:11:51 PM »

beetle... the times you play are not the same... 600 Americans is a lot different than 100 or so euros.

The Pizza map is allways fuel porked at any useful field... if the fields with 100% fuel are 3 sectors apart... that is in effect... 25% fuel with the added minus of the long travel times.... effect is the same... you are low on fuel when you get there but... with close fields at least you didn't waste as much time.

fuel not being able to get below 50% would be a good thing.

moving fields closer together in the lousyu maps would increase playerbase and add to gameplay.

lazs

beet1e · « **Reply #37 on:** January 01, 2004, 01:16:47 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
moving fields closer together in the lousyu maps would increase playerbase and add to gameplay.

I don't agree. And fortunately for the rest of us, neither does HTC.

Mini D · « **Reply #38 on:** January 01, 2004, 04:20:39 PM »

It's OK lazs. You've finally started to play the map and now you start blaming any flaws on the player base (particularly those not championing you). Being able to up with 25% or 50% fuel is pretty irrelivant if the base is being vulched continually (doras or typhoons flying down the runway... remember?).

And those mobs at the base... they're not all "fuel porkers". They're also "furballers" that are bored because not enough people are spawning... and end up shooting at something in hopes of seeing smoke.

Eventually, you'll start to figure a few things out lazs. I know you're working hard to stick to your "closer bases" guns... but it's just going to show it's worth to you even more as you continue playing. Closer airfields is not the anser... moving the fights away from the airfields is the answer. The closer you make the bases... the harder that is to do.

As that starts to sink in, we'll sit back and watch you argue about how much better fester's map is while starting more threads about the dweebery that's occuring there... as if the two are totally unrelated.

MiniD

Wadke · « **Reply #39 on:** January 01, 2004, 10:16:14 PM »

Toad and i porked a shore battery once!

Nomak · « **Reply #40 on:** January 01, 2004, 11:33:35 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
face it guys... festers map is the most popular in the series and... the most fun... take the 25% fuel thing out and it would be perfect...

lazs

I think this statement is completly true. Anyone who can look at the facts without having a seperate "agenda" will agree.

FesterMA provides the best action of any of the maps.

Toad · « **Reply #41 on:** January 02, 2004, 12:07:49 AM »

Yah, I admit I don't know much about this stuff, but Wadke and I and a couple others made passes on the SB shooting only at the gun in the emplacement. Seemed like it blew pretty quick from just MG fire.

One of those deals where the fight petered out before you could fly to it on one of the big maps. Looks good when you takeoff, over when you get there. BI, wasn't it?

Gixer · « **Reply #42 on:** January 02, 2004, 02:45:28 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
I agree that the whole fuel porkage debacle has got out of hand. Last night, every single Rook front line base had been porked to 25%.

But you're making a mistake to equate fuel porkers with strat players. One is not synonymous with the other.

One reason why I started flying the B Pony exclusivley a few tours back. Though unfortunetly work and racing have kept me well away from AH last tour.

~~...-Gixer~~

beet1e · « **Reply #43 on:** January 02, 2004, 04:37:11 AM »

Lazs said that FesterMA was the most popular map in the series and then Nomak said

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Originally posted by Nomak
I think this statement is completly true. Anyone who can look at the facts without having a seperate "agenda" will agree.

FesterMA provides the best action of any of the maps.

How do you arrive at that conclusion, other than by extrapolation of BBS posts? That, by the way, is a wholly inaccurate method. Consider this: Most of us might agree that with a flat rate subscription, HTC needs to cater to the masses to keep the game popular and keep those new subscriptions coming in. Now consider this: The BBS has been stuffed with whines about night time ruining the gameplay. Night was taken out, but now it's been put back, despite all those whines. Why's that then? And the answer is that this BBS means crap-all about the popularity of any game feature or map, and HTC is fully aware of that. The only way to gauge opinion with any degree of accuracy is by poll. Having 100 vociferous guys pontificating about this and that, and then trying to arrive at the majority view by extrapolation is worthless.

lazs2 · « **Reply #44 on:** January 02, 2004, 08:09:45 AM »

mini di... the typhie and 51 fuel porkers are at every map.... In festers map they matter less tho...

the worst day on festers map is still as good as the best day on the pizza map... the reasons I gave are valid.. if the fields are close the fuel porkage doesn't destroy the fight. in the example I gave on festers map.. they typhies and 51's could be ignored and a good fight was within sight.. on the pizza abortion the ONLY fight is the vultchers.. everything else is a crapshoot.. you could sneak off with a full tank and head three sectors but what you seen on the radar when you left would be nothing like what you seen when you (eventually) got there.

now... I will let this settle in to your thought process and see what is your next arguement. how you justify everyone hating pizza in very vocal ways here and on channel one and hardly ever a complaint about festers map but still maintain that closer fields don't work.... while you are at it... explain how moving fields closer in Infinity map made it better but that close fields don't work.

lazs