"style" comparissons...

[Zanth]

The trouble, as people have been pointing out forever it seems, is indeed the resupply equation.   One porker person of adequate ability break what takes 8 to 10 people to fix in a similar amount of time.  Running several M3 or Goon supply runs will completely fix a base, but who logs on to do this?  (Not to mention, the porker makes attack score while resupply actually lowers all of the resuppliers per sortie scores)

[lazs2]

is that right znath?  the guys who would be into the strat or "score"... get points for killing the fuel but get punished if they resupply it?   How do the "strat" guys justify this?

lazs

[Shane]

Originally posted by Zanth
The trouble, as people have been pointing out forever it seems, is indeed the resupply equation.   One porker person of adequate ability break what takes 8 to 10 people to fix in a similar amount of time.  Running several M3 or Goon supply runs will completely fix a base, but who logs on to do this?  (Not to mention, the porker makes attack score while resupply actually lowers all of the resuppliers per sortie scores)

not to mention that resupply runs were a great way for noobs to contribute to the "effort."  now it's simply not worth it.

[Mini D]

Lazs, there's a big difference between what you initially post and how you spin it later.  Like... completely ignoring the "vulching" comments.  And "easy to ignore cause they're less impacting" doesn't translate well given the "unable to ignore them and had to do something about it" tone of your initial post.

Like I said, you'll continue to insist you were right about this map lazs, no matter how much you start to dislike what you see in it.

MiniD

[lazs2]

mini di.... what I said and what you wished I had said are not the same.

I said that I had "decided to play with these strat warriors"... not that I had too because they were vultching... there were only a few of them and they could be ignored... I just felt like beating em up.

my point was that they weren't any fun to play with... they had little or no skill but in festers excellent map.... they also had the least effect of any map.

I don't know how you come up with this stuff.   If you think that maybe you are maybe pychic or have some strange insight into how I think then say so.... if not.... simply read what I say.   You won't look so dishonest that way.

lazs

[Mini D]

Spin away lazs.

They showed up in Typhies so you decided to show them by grabbing a tempest.  Yeppers... you were out looking to play the strat game alright.

Face it lazs, you're starting to dig for **** now.  You've been stomping your feet for so long that you're actually forgetting why it was you started in the first place.

Strat weenies were ruining your fun, but you could have just ignored them, but chose to do otherwise so you could have something to post about while insisting how fun it wasn't... while maintaining the whole scene had nothing to do with the map or the fact that the bases were closer together.

Damn lazs.

MiniD

[Mini D]

P.S.  Good thing you weren't on one of your "perk points are useless" rants too.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Mini D
P.S.  Good thing you weren't on one of your "perk points are useless" rants too.

[lazs2]

mini di...perk points are worthless...  I have allmost 13,000 of em and have used em what?    maybe a half a dozen or so times since they came out?   That would make em pretty useless by anmyones standards I would think.

How do you get spin out of anything I have said?   I said it straight forward.   I coulda played any way I liked on Festers excellent map.   I choose to up in a  tempest just to mess with some suicide fuel porkers...I didn't NEED to and... I didn't stop em from porking fuel in any case... I simply chased em down and killed em.

It started in the pizza abortion.   I never used perk points until the total boredom that is pizza 90% of the time.... same ol high level raids by typhies and P51's to pork fuel, vultch and run away..   I could log or kill em.... no other real fights were available...  

the guys killing fuel and vultching seem to be the worst at acm.   If you get behind them and are faster they are simply dead.   No wonder so many who only like the latest and greatest and fastest stay high... they know they won't run into too much competition up  there and... they won't have to pay attention to boot.

The perk point system is not totaly worthless if we have to have very fast late war planes in with the early and mid year ones.   The system does make the perk planes very rare tho and I am grateful for that.... Imagine how the guys I ran into would use free perk planes...  

lazs

[Mini D]

lazs... you spin it every time you post.  Pretending you were "playing the strat game", pretending "you didn't have to cause it wasn't that impacting" and then grabbing a perk plane to do it "which you've only done a dozen times... ever".  It's not adding up to the neet little picture you try to spin it into lazs.  Not at all.

Something happened on this map that made you grab a perk plane, something you seldomely do.  Something you criticize others for doing and something you continually brag about.  Something actually drove you to do it.  But, just to be clear, it had nothing to do with the map.

Come on lazs, quit trying to spin it around.  You've said it, now actually think about it.

MiniD

[lazs2]

geeze mini di... I said "half a dozen" .... you said... "dozen"..  if you are gonna lie you should wait a few days to lie instead of in the next post.

sure... it's a relatively small lie but.... why bother?   Nature?

I mean... I say enough here that you should be able to find something to trip me up on without ...ah.. fabricating.

I will make it clear... there is more variety on the fester map.  you can allways find a fight.   I simply grabbed a tempest to prove a point to the fuel porkers.   It never comes out how I think it would tho... I don't think this group cared if I killed em or if the ack killed em or if they augered... so long as they caused problems for everyone else first.

As I was doing this the fight continued as before... after my hop in the tempest I jumped back into a 25% fuel FM2 and continued to fight in the same spot like most of the other players were doing.

In the pizza abortion.... the fight is over.   The same talentless suicide porkers can ruin any possibility of a furball in the pizza abortion.

I can't make it any clearer.   It is simply the way it is.   It is the way it is setup.   Far fields and 25% fuel at one of the bases make furballs there impossible.   Close fields and 25% fuel don't do ther same thing.   There is no way you can spin that.

lazs

[Hap]

Originally posted by lazs2
 

so.... furball or... fight the "strat" guys that seems to be the choices.

lazs

what other "choice" do you seek lazs?

[Mini D]

Ah lazs... you're getting desperate now.  You've gotten so distorted you don't even know what a lie is anymore.  You see, a lie is saying something you know isn't true.  Something you continue to do here.  Something you continue to do everytime you do something, then insist it wasn't fun if it is something you've previously insisted wouldn't be fun or insist it's fun if it's something you've previously insisted would be fun.

Of course the furball was fun.  Of course the "strat guys" weren't affecting it.  You just grabbed a perk plane to attack them on a whim to prove to everyone how fun it wasn't going to be.  I'm sure it had nothing to do with the previous fights... I wouldn't even venture to guess if a P-51 flew through a furball and nailed you or nailed you when you were trying to take off.  I know things that simple don't motivate you to make the effort to actually support your own arguments by saying "see... I didn't enjoy that at all."

It's getting old lazs.  Very old.  But... I'll continue to call you on it.

MiniD

[Delirium]

This is my opinion of the MA in a historical sense...
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9th Airforce HQ, July10, 1944

"Gentlemen, its been a difficult war but we believe we have come up with a strategy to win the war. We realize the fuel is key to keeping the enemy aircraft on the ground so we've decided to hit the fuel and to keep it burning."

"No, no, no.. not at the refineries, but at the fields! We only need 1 fast flying pilot per base so probably no more than 100 pilots for the whole theater. The rest of you can pack your bags and go fight in the infantry."
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[DipStick]

Originally posted by DoctorYO
Beetle should have been rook about a year ago...

Then he would have seen the plunder and cowardice of the Knit and Bish Horde armies when they would race eachother for a reset with like 330 (combined Knit Bish) players vs 60 rooks...  Forget every field had porked fuel, more like every field had enemy cap on it...

sometimes the whole side of your country would vanish while trying to RTB... fun indeed..

Ah those were the days...

The good thing about then was I didn't feel guilty flying a stang or g10 ....

Also the quality of rook pilot was bar none..  (now its more lax....)

I almost long for a true crisis like that to happen again....

ah back to chess... ( NC4 anyone )  guess which opening?  Highlest level of draws among grandmasters..  



2 cents


DoctorYO

Sounds like Knights for last 6 months or so...