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Offline Holden McGroin

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« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2004, 12:56:42 AM »
Why is a difficult thing to prove scientifically.

Why gravity works, why electromagnetism works, many other 'whys' are all equally mysterious.

We can show that they are, and how they work, and discover the rules they follow, but why will be (probably) forever a mystery.

The speed of light in vacuum is the fastest speed because it is.

The closest answer may be 'Because God wanted it that way"... at least it is as good as an answer as anyone has come up with yet.
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« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2004, 01:06:09 AM »
Well I think most people have heard about the standard explanation or theories on gravity (einstein). Here is a new alternative theory.

Autodynamics

Relativity

faster than light

Gravity

Sounds a bit far out but click on the expert tab.
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« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2004, 03:31:46 AM »
If you guys are so smart then explain this:


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« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2004, 04:58:27 AM »
For stuff like general relativity and quantum words are no good, you nedd something rigerous. i.e. maths

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« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2004, 06:23:28 AM »
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Why is it a difficult thing to prove scientifically.

Why gravity works, why electromagnetism works, many other 'whys' are all equally mysterious.


Well in order to further the search for answeres on gravity, the scientists are trying to alter it, affect it, or change it somehow or find clues indrectly. Even resolve known issues of the theory within other scopes of physics such as quantum mechanics where a gravity theory doesnt make sense or is difficult to achieve.

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The speed of light in vacuum is the fastest speed because it is.


The brains are trying to slow light down and eventually push a particle faster then c.

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The closest answer may be 'Because God wanted it that way"... at least it is as good as an answer as anyone has come up with yet.


Which god are you refering to?

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« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2004, 07:10:50 AM »
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Well in order to further the search for answeres on gravity, the scientists are trying to alter it, affect it, or change it somehow or find clues indrectly. Even resolve known issues of the theory within other scopes of physics such as quantum mechanics where a gravity theory doesnt make sense or is difficult to achieve.


The answer to why is not a question for physicists, it is for philosophers. Physicists answer how.

Nobody knows why gravity works, it just does.

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The brains are trying to slow light down and eventually push a particle faster then c.


What good is faster than light speed when light speed is only 55 mph?

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Which god are you refering to?


The supreme overlord god of the universe, Fred.

And Vulcun, you see there are two genders in the human species, and in the image you presented represents the female gender.
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« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2004, 10:13:48 AM »
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Why is the speed of light a constant, or an absolute. Doesnt that ...defy the laws of...something (see car/bullet analogy).

And how can light be both a wave-movement AND a particle (at least according to my old physics teacher). Something about a proton having a mass while travelling at the speed of light, but not having any mass if not travelling at that speed.


Not a physisist, but, i think light (energy) is transfered from molecule to molecule just like electricity goes through a wire.
  Particles displace molecules.  i.e. travel through space like a fish through water.
  So, probably a terrible analogy but, if I were riding on top of a train going 200mph and I shot a laser beam, would the laser beam be going speedoflight+200mph?  No.  It would travel at the speedoflight in all directions from the point at which it originated since the transfer rate of light energy from molecule to molecule only happens so fast.

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« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2004, 12:05:54 PM »
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Not a physisist, but, i think light (energy) is transfered from molecule to molecule just like electricity goes through a wire.

I'm not a physicist either, but I know light can travel through a vacuum.  The speed of light constant used in physics is the speed of light in a vacuum.  Light travels more slowly through matter like air or water.

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« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2004, 01:11:52 PM »
In his book "A Brief History Of Time", Stephen Hawking explained the absolute speed of light very simply. It's not so much a matter of speed, but acceleration.

Here's the basis for his explanation: To reach a velocity, something must accelerate to that speed. To accelerate something takes energy. The more mass something has, the more energy it takes to accelerate it. That is newtonian physics. But newtonian physics neglects the affects of time and space... relativity. Relativity reveals that as an object gains speed, mass increases, so that at some point mass will approach infinity.

Ok, here's the simple part: As mass increases, it takes more energy to accelerate. When mass nears infinity, it takes an infinate amount of energy to accelerate it any further. Thus we have a natural limit to how fast something can travel, which has been measured as the speed of light.

It's called the speed of light because light is one of the few things we can normally observe that travels that fast. But light can and does commonly travel slower when it travels through some material, such as glass. How much it slows depends upon the affective density (transparency), length of time it travels through the material, and the fequency of the light. Thus the thicker the glass, the more light slows down. This is what makes lenses and prisms work... and sunsets.

My own observations: All this seems strange to us because space, time and mass are not what they appear to be. Mass isn't really some solid hunk of stuff that we see and feel, these are simple affects. For example, as you dissect an atom, you find an increasing number of smaller and smaller particals separated by relatively huge distances. Eventually the particals get so small they no longer have any mass to speak of. So when you completely dissect an atom, though it may be lead, you end up with nothing but the energy required to hold the atom together. Thus mass is not a solid material as it appears to be, but energy which gives it the properties we observe. So look not at the particals of an atom, the important part is the gaps between them... which is time and space... nothing but a relationship... relatively speaking.

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« Reply #55 on: January 11, 2004, 01:22:04 PM »
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I'm not a physicist either, but I know light can travel through a vacuum.  The speed of light constant used in physics is the speed of light in a vacuum.  Light travels more slowly through matter like air or water.

ra


Right, some molecules are less conductive than other molecules.  That is why there are shadows.  And of course, space is a vacuum and provides a perfect medium for light to ttravel.

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« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2004, 08:43:16 PM »
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Right, some molecules are less conductive than other molecules. That is why there are shadows. And of course, space is a vacuum and provides a perfect medium for light to ttravel.


So...

Light travels from molecule to molecule, like electricity goes through a wire.

Because vacuum is the absence of matter therefore there are no molecules, this makes vacuum the perfect medium.

Something of a problem in the logic here....

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