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Offline maddog

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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2004, 01:34:54 AM »
try resetting the bios before you do anything else
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Offline Vipermann

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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2004, 10:36:43 AM »
If it's a custom box and if it's been iffy about booting from the get-go I'd be willing to bet you have a grounding issue.

I'd open the box and pull and reseat all the cards and RAM, not so much to make sure their seated correctly but to try and unground the motherboard.

If you feel comfortable with it, I'd pull the motherboard and reinstall making sure your using as many spacers as you can.
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2004, 03:11:30 PM »
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Originally posted by BB Gun
Last time *I* had this problem, the system wasn't detecting ANY drives, and the reason it wasn't detecting them is that the rail putting power to the hard drives had gone tits up and wasn't supplying power fast enough to initialize the drives on boot/reboot.

Replaced the powersupply and everything was hunkydory.

What powersupply do you use, how old is it and what are its numbers?

(amps at 3.3, 5 and 12 volt lines, over all wattage, wattage at each line and combinatoin wattage for 3.3+5 volt lines)

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I found the label...

Amps at 3.3V - 14A
Amps at 5V - 30A
Amps at 12V - 12A
Overall wattage - 300W

I couldn't find the wattage at each line and combination wattage, though.
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2004, 05:59:28 PM »
300 watts these days is like trying to pull a 48' semi trailer with a model A ford......even if it turn out not to be the problem I'd replace it. Check the ram...I had a stick that wasn't seated correctly and it drove me nuts
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2004, 11:17:14 PM »
man, thats WEAK.  Before anything else, I'd replace the PSU.  Its simple, no reinstallations of anything are necessary, and it needs to be replaced anyway.  That's probably been your problem from the start.

some suggestions in the under 50 dollar range:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-408&catalog=58&depa=1

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-913&catalog=58&depa=1

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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2004, 09:43:14 PM »
Any suggestions for the amount of power that I should get?
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2004, 11:26:38 PM »
pull all your cards but video card

ur 300 watt ps should handle just that load no problem, if you still have same problem, I wouldn't think it is the ps

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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2004, 12:57:17 AM »
350 should be ok, as long as its a quality 350 PSU.  Some "400" watt PSUs are so inefficient that they're no better than a quality 300 Watt PSU.

Look for a 350 watt PSU with 200W (minimum - 210, 220 would be better) across 3.3+5 volt lines, and amperages similar to what is shown in the antec example above (over 30 A on the 5 volt line, 15 or better amps on the 12 volt line and 25 amps or better on the 3.3 volt line.

I run that enermax in my kids system (PIV 1.8, Radeon8500, 15 GB HD, 8 GB HD and a single CDROM) and have no issues - even though one of the specs is below my recommendations above (only 185 watts listed across 3.3+5V lines)  Its amperages are outstanding though.

I have not heard a single bad thing about antec PSUs, and that one would be fine as well.

You *could* get more power if you want, but you start upping the price, and I'm not sure its necessary.  A GOOD 350W PSU is almost always better than a cheap 400+W PSU.

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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2004, 12:55:47 PM »
Hmmm..the power supply wouldnt just start not being able to keep up would it?  If you were running AH and all that other stuff with the same PS, it should certainly be able to fire up the computer.  Unless it half-way died, which is unlikely.  Can you boot with a bootable floppy?  Do a little common sense troulbe shooting before you spend a bunch of $$$$.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2004, 02:06:03 PM »
Its entirely possible.

My 300 Watt PSU running my kids computer just stopped giving the juice on the 12 volt rail - or its transient time (from switch on to full juice) was just SLOW - so the hard drives would not spin up in time, and the motherboard never could see them on startup - but otherwise it POSTed just fine.  I thought it was the motherboard, so swapped it out, and still had startup problems, though not as severe, since it was a more robust motherboard.  

I replaced the power supply, and all was hunky dory.

The reason I think its his PSU, is that before mine went completely tits up, it would sometimes start, other times not, but a restart or a "warmup period" followed by a restart would solve the boot issue, and then it ran perfectly fine.... until the next shutdown/startup.

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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2004, 03:56:24 PM »
Thanks for all the help guys. I got my new 400 watt power supply today, installed it, and rebooted the computer. It works just fine now, I guess the old power supply was either shot or just not strong enough. Thanks again!
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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2004, 06:00:43 PM »
glad it worked!

*does little victory dance*

I was right! I was right!  :D

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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2004, 03:04:12 PM »
Well, its back. I went to play Allied Assault the other night and my screen locked up, and I couldn't Ctrl/Alt/Del it, so I manually restarted it. Well, the same thing that happened at the beginning of this thread happened again, and I have no idea what is causing it. I took it to Best Buy and had them look at it, and after nothing happened the guy came over to me and said that the motherboard was dead. Any possibility this is what is actually going on?
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« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2004, 05:13:40 PM »
Could a bad motherboard cause the powersupply to go bad?  Not likely.  What could happen though is that a bad powersupply can damage a motherboard when it fails.

Did they test the powersupply?  It's not uncommon for new powersupplies to fail within the first week or two.
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« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2004, 07:18:30 PM »
Power supplies are like BooBs The bigger the better LOL
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