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ravells · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2004, 08:21:58 AM »

The Singaporeans have always been big on genes.

I remember when Lee Kwan Yew (the Prime Minister for many years until very recently) made some sort of crazy programme which involved financial incentives for post-grads to marry each other and have children on the grounds that that the kids would be cleverer than the norm.

Ravs.

Drunky · « **Reply #16 on:** January 28, 2004, 08:25:51 AM »

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Originally posted by ravells
I remember when Lee Kwan Yew (the Prime Minister for many years until very recently) made some sort of crazy programme which involved financial incentives for post-grads to marry each other and have children on the grounds that that the kids would be cleverer than the norm.

and six fingers and toes...and 1 out of every 3 is a retard.

fd ski · « **Reply #17 on:** January 28, 2004, 08:42:06 AM »

Simple solution to the problem:

Build the center in the middle of the nearest army base

miko2d · « **Reply #18 on:** January 28, 2004, 08:47:16 AM »

ravells: ...made some sort of crazy programme which involved financial incentives for post-grads to marry each other and have children on the grounds that that the kids would be cleverer than the norm.

What's so crazy about it? Post grads are marrying each other anyway and their kids are cleverer than "the norm". The only issue is that they have later and fewer children per family than people of lesser intelligence and that exerts a dysgenic effect on the population.
That programme sounds more sane than giving financial incentives for school drop-outs not to marry each other but have children on the grounds... Err.. Hmm..

miko

SunTracker · « **Reply #19 on:** January 28, 2004, 09:03:14 AM »

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Vegitarian medicine? Are you suggesting that there will be no animal testing in the development of any drug using that hormone?

Quit taking things to extremes. I told you about one case where cancer research didnt require animal testing. I have no idea from where you drew that conclusion.

Try to have some empathy for other creatures.

fd ski · « **Reply #20 on:** January 28, 2004, 09:09:55 AM »

empathy for other creatures ?

i ate cow last night. There was a chicked yesterday. Piggy ham... good stuff... then as I walked home, I was responsible for mass murdered of ants and other small crawling animals.
I took a shower and attempted genocide on all the bacteria on my body, I thought I heard their dying screems "WHY ???!!!" as they washed down the drain.
Then I did my laundry, detergent killed more microbes then there was casulties in all World Wars combined..
I think tonight I'll have sushi... talk about slaughter... tuna, salmon, red snapper, yellow tail, shrimp.... oh boy. Just call me Adolf !!!!

ravells · « **Reply #21 on:** January 28, 2004, 09:13:57 AM »

Lol Miko!

After talking on the 'divorce' thread about the sanctity of marriage and how modern Americans are devaluing it, are you really advocating that financial incentives for marrying somebody of a particular class is a good thing???

The scheme is crazy because, as far as I know, there is no compelling evidence that the child of two post grads will be any more intelligent than the norm (however that is defined).

Ravs

Boroda · « **Reply #22 on:** January 28, 2004, 09:17:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Saintaw
Why don't they just do as everyone else does... relocate their labs to somewhere in eastern europe? No one's going to b*tch over there...

Our beloved law-enforcement restricted narcosis usage in veterinary, because vets can't get drug licenses. So since December they operate pets only under immobilizing drugs.

Idiots. There is nothing worse then a fool with initiative.

This is what "animal rights" have to take care of.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 28, 2004, 09:20:48 AM »

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Eventually babies will be manufactured with perfect abilities. And i dont see anything wrong with that, why should babies inherit their parents weaknesses and possible fatal gene combinations?

Imperfection is inherent in Human Beings. That's what makes us human. I don't think we'll ever see the cloning of perfect babies. While it might sound appealing, these abominations wouldn't be human.

ravells · « **Reply #24 on:** January 28, 2004, 09:27:20 AM »

I think it depends upon the degree of imperfection that you are talking about. Many embryos are aborted because they have some terrible congenital defect. Wouldn't it be a lot nicer if, for example, stem cell research made it possible for those embryos to be born without disabilities?

Ravs

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 28, 2004, 09:48:32 AM »

They need to crack down and start treating the animal and nature rights *******s like the terrorist they are.

It won't take very many times of the Anti terror teams raiding these *******s before they realise animal life is not the same as human.

miko2d · « **Reply #26 on:** January 28, 2004, 10:17:46 AM »

ravells: After talking on the 'divorce' thread about the sanctity of marriage and how modern Americans are devaluing it, are you really advocating that financial incentives for marrying somebody of a particular class is a good thing???

I am not advocating any redistributive scheme by a government.
But if I had to choose between subcidising the procreation of dumb and psychotic (both highly-inheritable traits) or intelligent and well-balanced, I know which one I would prefer to have my tax money spent for.

The scheme is crazy because, as far as I know, there is no compelling evidence that the child of two post grads will be any more intelligent than the norm (however that is defined).

There is a multitude of research and mountains of evidence indicating that intelligence is 60-80% inheritable. Two post-grads with measured intelligence of 130 IQ points will have children with an average intelligence of about 122, not 100.
And the children of those children will also have the average intelligence of about 122 because the statistical regression to the mean effect only works for one generation and the subsequent one establishes the new mean.

Considering that it should take about 105 IQ points to successfully graduate from a high school, about 115 IQ points to be able to enter a college and about 120 to go into graduate studies, we would certainly have noticed if children of the post-grads had an average IQ of 100 and half of them were barely able to finish the high school.

lasersailor184: Imperfection is inherent in Human Beings. That's what makes us human. I don't think we'll ever see the cloning of perfect babies.

You do not have to worry about that because the imperfection that is supposedely inherent in human beings is moral, not physical. The genetic manipulation only deals with physical improvements. It strives to bring healthy and intelligent babies but it never claims to do anything about their morality - except for reducing the inheritable trait of psychoticism which makes people more likely to be lazy and immoral.

The cloning will not make perfect babies in any sense unless you have a "perfect" person to behin with - since cloning is just making an exact copy.

miko

2bighorn · « **Reply #27 on:** January 28, 2004, 10:34:43 AM »

Miko, Mengele (and some modern-day eugenics) would be proud of you...

Tuomio · « **Reply #28 on:** January 28, 2004, 10:45:24 AM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Imperfection is inherent in Human Beings. That's what makes us human. I don't think we'll ever see the cloning of perfect babies. While it might sound appealing, these abominations wouldn't be human.

Our appearances would ofcourse be the same for very long time, since we know what kind of treatment "different" gets in our society. At first they would just disable the dangerous genes in the "products", but with growing knowledge they would start to optimise our internals. For example make certain joints or bones more stronger, maybe make muscles grow faster with little exercise etc.

ravells · « **Reply #29 on:** January 28, 2004, 11:25:12 AM »

Miko said:

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There is a multitude of research and mountains of evidence indicating that intelligence is 60-80% inheritable

First I've heard of it. I've always understood (albeit it was some years ago when i discussed this with some psychologist friends) the results were inconclusive because there were so many other variables (such as high IQ parents having better jobs and therefore being able to give their children a better start).

Do you have any sources for this information? I'd be curious to read about it.

Thanks

Ravs