Author Topic: Iraq Had WMD (Read 1965 times)

Gunslinger · « **on:** January 29, 2004, 09:34:52 AM »

Saw on the news this morning that a top iraqi official said sadam had an extensive program with a highly sofisticated method of hiding them.

Still looking for a link to the story

I still think they're in syria

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2004, 09:52:19 AM »

At this point I dont even care.

Saddam needed to go, and the intelligence community caught a whiff of WMD. Post 9/11 everyone was touchy and didnt want another disaster to happen.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2004, 09:53:03 AM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
At this point I dont even care.

Saddam needed to go, and the intelligence community caught a whiff of WMD. Post 9/11 everyone was touchy and didnt want another disaster to happen.

The left cares..its all they got to hang onto for their smear campaigns this fall.

Saintaw · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2004, 09:57:57 AM »

Rip, you're starting to . Get a new CD.

Makarov9 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2004, 09:58:05 AM »

Sponge Bob is gay.

But he's the bomb diggaty!

Dowding · « **Reply #5 on:** January 29, 2004, 10:06:00 AM »

They had WMD. Excellent. I look forward to this Iraqi official revealing exactly where the stuff is since he has intimate knowledge of the processes used to hide it.

Hristo · « **Reply #6 on:** January 29, 2004, 10:41:52 AM »

what a coincidence ! Just as Mr. Kay announced he believes no WMDs are in Iraq....

Me thinks someone went into defensive mode

Toad · « **Reply #7 on:** January 29, 2004, 10:59:43 AM »

I care.

I doubt I'd be described as a radical leftie or even a leftie at all for that matter.

I'm sorry, but from my point of view the only possible justification for invading another sovereign country..... even one ruled by a despot like Saddam.... is a true threat to US National Security.

Bush and his administration put forward the Iraqi WMD program/stockpiles as the "true threat" that justified sending US combat troops into Iraq to remove said threat.

I admit I accepted their word and their reasoning (I still do accept the reasoning, but the proof is needed.) and supported it.

However, if it turns out they were wrong, there still has to be accountability.

500+ of this nation's finest have given their lives to remove this "true threat".

If it's not there, the buck stops on the CINC's desk. That simple. He's responsible and accountable for this action. He gets the support and adulation if it proves correct, he gets the blame if it was wrong.

Time will tell and it'll be sooner rather than later.

Pongo · « **Reply #8 on:** January 29, 2004, 11:23:47 AM »

really if there were no weapons of mass destruction. It was just an arbitrary invasion of a soverien nation by a world power. Something that moves the world back a centrury. And the invasion itself is backed off course by weapons of mass destruction.

2Slow · « **Reply #9 on:** January 29, 2004, 12:13:56 PM »

I am suprised some of our old stuff hasn't been planted and found.

Seriously, I think todays world situation is similar to that of the lat 1700's to 1800's. The terrorist are the pirates of the 1800's. We have to deal with them and their fellow travelers in a severe force on force manner. Give them aid and/or comfort, you are on the list.

Cerceuilvolant · « **Reply #10 on:** January 29, 2004, 12:16:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
At this point I dont even care.

Saddam needed to go, and the intelligence community caught a whiff of WMD. Post 9/11 everyone was touchy and didnt want another disaster to happen.

I'm afraid that you'll have to get rid of a few allies:

Country Dictator Dates
Chile Gen. Augusto Pinochet 1973-1990
Argentina Gen. Jorge Rafael Videla 1976-1981
Indonesia Suharto 1965 coup against left-leaning Sukarno, 1975 support of East Timor genocide, etc.
Guatemala Armas, Fuentes, Montt 1954-
Iran The Shah of Iran
Ayatollah Khomeini was on the CIA payroll in the 1970s in Paris
Egypt Sadat, Mubarak 1978-today
Iraq Saddam Hussein
Nicaragua Anastasio Somoza & sons 1937-1979
Paraguay Stroessner. US supported throughout (state.gov says US has supported Paraguayan development since 1942) ($142M between 1962 and 1975) 1954-1989
Bolivia Col. Hugo Banzer overthrew elected leftist president Juan Jose Torres 1970-
Angola Jonas Savimbi/UNITA (didn't actually win his revolution, but killed or displaced millions) 1975-1989
Zaire Mobutu
Saudi Arabia Saud family
Kuwait a monarchy
Morocco
Tunisia
Algeria
Jordan
Panama Noriega was US-supported for years
Haiti Papa Doc, Baby Doc
Dominican Republic Belaguer 1965
Honduras
El Salvador 1980s
Nepal monarchy since 1948
Cuba Fulgencio Batista pre-Castro
Brazil Gen. Branco overthrew elected president Goulart with US support 1965-67

Ripsnort · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2004, 12:17:22 PM »

Me thinks words are worthless, show me da money! Maybe the Bush administration is just holding off on actually finding them til just about a month before election to show the lefties how "Dumb" Bush really is!?

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Iraq Minister Says Saddam's WMD Carefully Hidden
Thu January 29, 2004 10:17 AM ET

By Anna Mudeva
SOFIA, Bulgaria (Reuters) - Iraqi foreign minister Hoshiyar Zebari said Thursday Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction had been carefully hidden, but he was confident they could be discovered.

"I have every belief that some of these weapons could be found as we move forward," Zebari, an Iraqi Kurd, told a news conference in Sofia. "They have been hidden in certain areas. The system of hiding was very sophisticated."

The United States and Britain cited Iraq's possession of chemical and biological arms as their main reason for invading the country in March and toppling Saddam. But no such weapons have so far come to light despite intensive searches.

Former chief U.S. weapons hunter David Kay said Wednesday "we were almost all wrong" about the issue and it was "highly unlikely that there were large stockpiles of deployed militarized chemical and biological weapons" in Iraq.

But Zebari, on a visit to Bulgaria, said: "We as Iraqis have seen Saddam Hussein develop, manufacture and use these weapons of mass destruction against us. He hasn't denied that."

Zebari was apparently referring to the use of chemical weapons by Saddam's forces against Iraqi Kurdish villages in the late 1980s.

He reiterated the position of Iraq's U.S.-appointed Governing Council that Saddam, accused of sending thousands of Iraqis to mass graves, should be tried by an Iraqi court.

The former Iraqi president was captured in December near his home town of Tikrit, after evaded U.S. forces for months.

Zebari said Saddam's trial should be fair and transparent because it would be a test for Iraq's new rulers to prove their adherence to the supremacy of law.

Asked to comment on Turkey's fears Iraqi Kurds might seek a breakaway state, Zebari said there were no plans to divide Iraq.

"We have proved over the last nine months that all the Iraqis from the North to the South are committed to the national unity. ... No group, no party has any plans to undermine Iraq's unity or territorial integrity," he said.

President Bush said Wednesday he was also committed to a "territorially intact" Iraq.

The Kurds, who fought alongside U.S. forces to topple Saddam, are one of Iraq's best organized ethnic groups after enjoying U.S-protected autonomy since the 1991 Gulf War. They have presented a plan to the Iraqi Governing Council that grants significant autonomy to the Kurdish region.

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ygsmilo · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2004, 12:22:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Cerceuilvolant
I'm afraid that you'll have to get rid of a few allies:

Country Dictator Dates
Chile Gen. Augusto Pinochet 1973-1990
Argentina Gen. Jorge Rafael Videla 1976-1981
Indonesia Suharto 1965 coup against left-leaning Sukarno, 1975 support of East Timor genocide, etc.
Guatemala Armas, Fuentes, Montt 1954-
Iran The Shah of Iran
Ayatollah Khomeini was on the CIA payroll in the 1970s in Paris
Egypt Sadat, Mubarak 1978-today
Iraq Saddam Hussein
Nicaragua Anastasio Somoza & sons 1937-1979
Paraguay Stroessner. US supported throughout (state.gov says US has supported Paraguayan development since 1942) ($142M between 1962 and 1975) 1954-1989
Bolivia Col. Hugo Banzer overthrew elected leftist president Juan Jose Torres 1970-
Angola Jonas Savimbi/UNITA (didn't actually win his revolution, but killed or displaced millions) 1975-1989
Zaire Mobutu
Saudi Arabia Saud family
Kuwait a monarchy
Morocco
Tunisia
Algeria
Jordan
Panama Noriega was US-supported for years
Haiti Papa Doc, Baby Doc
Dominican Republic Belaguer 1965
Honduras
El Salvador 1980s
Nepal monarchy since 1948
Cuba Fulgencio Batista pre-Castro
Brazil Gen. Branco overthrew elected president Goulart with US support 1965-67

History is an interesting thing is'nt it.

I suppose that YOU being the proud owner of the Vichy govenment puts you right up there with the best,,, eh ?

Gunslinger · « **Reply #13 on:** January 29, 2004, 12:24:47 PM »

TY rip. Was looking but guess I didnt look hard enough

Ping · « **Reply #14 on:** January 29, 2004, 12:25:51 PM »

Milo I must object to your use of the term "eh ?"

That is distinctly Canadian and as such is not to be used lightly.
I hereby request that you remove it and replace it with something more to your geographical region.

Thanx.