Author Topic: Mig25 mach 3 capable? (Read 10471 times)

Boroda · « **Reply #120 on:** February 02, 2004, 02:10:37 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Unlike the USSR? Which didn't invade numerous countries? Power certainly corrupted the communists, won't argue that.

I wasn't aware the US was occupying Yugoslavia. Amazing what our leaders are keeping from us.

Did we invade "numerous countries"?! Please tell me the list!

Should I provide a list of souverign countries invaded by the US in last 100 years? I am sure it will beat Toad's longest floods.

And please don't put your words in my mouth. Where did you hear me saying US occupied Yugoclavia? You just took away a historical part of Serbia and installed a genocidic gangster regime of drug-dealing and kidnapping fundamental Moslim terrorists there.

I am not happy about our current leaders. But I'll support them if they'll decide to stop the agressors. You guys need an opposing force. I sincerely hope that we'll not carry this burden, there are some new powers that emerged in last 25 years.

Toad, sorry for going all the same route again

I have told you before that I prefer to see all this confrontation just as "blue vs. red" sides, regardless to political and propaganda issues.

AKIron · « **Reply #121 on:** February 02, 2004, 02:21:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Did we invade "numerous countries"?! Please tell me the list!

Czechoslovakia and Afghanistan come immediately to mind. Of course there were many invaded during WWII and occupied until the USSR collapsed in '91.

Like I said, tiresome.

Forgot Hungary.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #122 on:** February 02, 2004, 02:23:16 PM »

Don't forget Soviet puppet states in North Korea and North Vietnam which invaded their neighbors.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #123 on:** February 02, 2004, 02:24:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Where did you hear me saying US occupied Yugoclavia? You just took away a historical part of Serbia and installed a genocidic gangster regime of drug-dealing and kidnapping fundamental Moslim terrorists there.

Not "you", "we". Russian troops were part of that operation too.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #124 on:** February 02, 2004, 02:28:31 PM »

Warsaw pact countries that were dominated by the USSR, er, I mean "chose not to be included in the Mashall plan on their own "free will" (Snicker).

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #125 on:** February 02, 2004, 02:31:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
JFYI: first Soviet airborn long-range radar planes were shipped to the units in early 60s. Americans didn't have anything like that in that times.

Tu-126:

Wrong again, see E-1 Tracer.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #126 on:** February 02, 2004, 02:34:31 PM »

Ahh, good find Funked, but I'm sure its all been altered Western Propoganda

Built by Grumman, the E-1B Tracer was essentially a slightly wider Tracker (S-2) with a modified tail configuration. The powerful airborne radar located in the radome assured surveillance for both air and surface contacts to distances of over 200 miles. The E-1B radar system could be used to direct friendly aircraft to a hostile target regardless of weather conditions and darkness.
Originally the E-1B was designated WF-2, which led crewmembers to assign the nickname of "Willy Fudd" to the aircraft. Although newer AEW aircraft have made the Tracer obsolete, the availiability of the E-1B in 1958 was a major advancement not only in airborne early warning technology, but also caused a revolution in aerial and surface strategy and tactics.

Roscoroo · « **Reply #127 on:** February 02, 2004, 02:53:14 PM »

I musta walked in on the wrong thread again..... wasnt this the mig-25 vs sr-71 thread ???

Toad · « **Reply #128 on:** February 02, 2004, 02:55:07 PM »

Yeah but all the original questions were answered early on and now it's just another fun thread.

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #129 on:** February 02, 2004, 03:03:34 PM »

aka american buffoons on parade.

AKIron · « **Reply #130 on:** February 02, 2004, 03:30:12 PM »

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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
aka american buffoons on parade.

Everytime you post.

Toad · « **Reply #131 on:** February 02, 2004, 03:31:09 PM »

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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
aka american buffoons on parade.

Yah, the very first one JUST showed up!

Toad · « **Reply #132 on:** February 02, 2004, 03:37:36 PM »

The Israelis have improved our electronics significantly and they find it hard to share with us. However, they are being a bit more forthcoming; I doubt we'll see it all, but there has been improvement.

I want to see us buy their Python V missle with the DASH. USAF needs to quit fooling with developing one and just use theirs.

I'm sure the Israelis do better than the Arabs with captured equipment. After all, the Israelis actually have the people and equimpment to maintain all that "simple, rugged" equipment that the Arabs couldn't manage to keep in the air. Not to mention far better pilot training and a REASON to stay sharp.

And I'll take the F-22, no problem. You keep the 3 JSF's.

It still won't matter if push comes to shove.

AKIron · « **Reply #133 on:** February 02, 2004, 03:43:48 PM »

All the really good stuff stays secret for long as possible. Takes a war to see it in action. GScholtz, you talkin' to me?

Toad · « **Reply #134 on:** February 02, 2004, 03:51:06 PM »

Let's make sure we're talking the same thing.

JSF = Joint Strike Fighter? The one designed by Lockheed Martin, same guys that designed the F-22?

We on the same page here?