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Offline Ripsnort

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Happy Birthday Ronald Reagan
« on: February 06, 2004, 06:47:29 PM »
93 today.

History *will* remember you as one of the greatest.

Offline JB73

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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2004, 07:06:42 PM »
i only hope it will

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Offline mrblack

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Happy Birthday Ronald Reagan
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2004, 07:08:30 PM »
Mr President

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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2004, 07:32:46 PM »
He's the only one I ever cared about.   God bless him...

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Happy Birthday Ronald Reagan
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2004, 07:38:14 PM »
Who was Ronald Reagan?
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2004, 07:54:59 PM »
I wonder what his astrologer told Nancy to make him do today.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Stay thirsty my friends.

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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2004, 09:55:40 PM »
He was certainly the right guy at the right time.

Shame he has to go out like he is.


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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2004, 11:19:10 PM »
He was that actor. You know, from Death valley days.

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2004, 11:52:31 PM »
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He was that actor. You know, from Death valley days.


Oh yeah, I forgot.


Are you one of those horoscope guys?, I'm a cancer with a bad moon a rising.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2004, 12:06:49 AM »
Taurus
Ya know, a stubborn bull(*****ter)

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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2004, 02:50:28 AM »
Maggie Thatcher's right hand man. :) The Reagan-Thatcher years were glorious. (still trying to reel in Dowding & Straffo)

I read Lee Iacocca's first two books. He was a great admirer of Reagan as a friend, but completely panned him as president. I also read Patti Davis's book. She admired her father occasionally, but not her mother. Odd that she should change her name to Nancy Reagan's maiden name.

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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2004, 11:02:39 AM »
Reagan did nothing more than act like all was well, or like we would kick the USSR's bellybutton if we felt like it. Fortunately this proved to be enough to get the foreign policy job done, and I salute him for that.

OTOH, the deficit, poverty, the homeless, and crime all rose during his tenure.

Happy Birthday.

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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2004, 11:13:10 AM »
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Reagan did nothing more than act like all was well, or like we would kick the USSR's bellybutton if we felt like it.  

He didn't act like we could, he was pro-active.
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Intelligence shortcomings, as we see, have a thousand fathers; secret intelligence triumphs are orphans. Here is the unremarked story of "the Farewell dossier": how a C.I.A. campaign of computer sabotage resulting in a huge explosion in Siberia — all engineered by a mild-mannered economist named Gus Weiss — helped us win the cold war.

 
 
Weiss worked down the hall from me in the Nixon administration. In early 1974, he wrote a report on Soviet advances in technology through purchasing and copying that led the beleaguered president — détente notwithstanding — to place restrictions on the export of computers and software to the U.S.S.R.

Seven years later, we learned how the K.G.B. responded. I was writing a series of hard-line columns denouncing the financial backing being given Moscow by Germany and Britain for a major natural gas pipeline from Siberia to Europe. That project would give control of European energy supplies to the Communists, as well as generate $8 billion a year to support Soviet computer and satellite research.

President François Mitterrand of France also opposed the gas pipeline. He took President Reagan aside at a conference in Ottawa on July 19, 1981, to reveal that France had recruited a key K.G.B. officer in Moscow Center.

Col. Vladimir Vetrov provided what French intelligence called the Farewell dossier. It contained documents from the K.G.B. Technology Directorate showing how the Soviets were systematically stealing — or secretly buying through third parties — the radar, machine tools and semiconductors to keep the Russians nearly competitive with U.S. military-industrial strength through the 70's. In effect, the U.S. was in an arms race with itself.

Reagan passed this on to William J. Casey, his director of central intelligence, now remembered only for the Iran-contra fiasco. Casey called in Weiss, then working with Thomas C. Reed on the staff of the National Security Council. After studying the list of hundreds of Soviet agents and purchasers (including one cosmonaut) assigned to this penetration in the U.S. and Japan, Weiss counseled against deportation.

Instead, according to Reed — a former Air Force secretary whose fascinating cold war book, "At the Abyss," will be published by Random House next month — Weiss said: "Why not help the Soviets with their shopping? Now that we know what they want, we can help them get it." The catch: computer chips would be designed to pass Soviet quality tests and then to fail in operation.

In our complex disinformation scheme, deliberately flawed designs for stealth technology and space defense sent Russian scientists down paths that wasted time and money.

The technology topping the Soviets' wish list was for computer control systems to automate the operation of the new trans-Siberian gas pipeline. When we turned down their overt purchase order, the K.G.B. sent a covert agent into a Canadian company to steal the software; tipped off by Farewell, we added what geeks call a "Trojan Horse" to the pirated product.

"The pipeline software that was to run the pumps, turbines and valves was programmed to go haywire," writes Reed, "to reset pump speeds and valve settings to produce pressures far beyond those acceptable to the pipeline joints and welds. The result was the most monumental non-nuclear explosion and fire ever seen from space."

Our Norad monitors feared a nuclear detonation, but satellites that would have picked up its electromagnetic pulse were silent. That mystified many in the White House, but "Gus Weiss came down the hall to tell his fellow NSC staffers not to worry. It took him another twenty years to tell me why."

Farewell stayed secret because the blast in June 1982, estimated at three kilotons, took place in the Siberian wilderness, with no casualties known. Nor was the red-faced K.G.B. about to complain publicly about being tricked by bogus technology. But all the software it had stolen for years was suddenly suspect, which stopped or delayed the work of thousands of worried Russian technicians and scientists.

Vetrov was caught and executed in 1983. A year later, Bill Casey ordered the K.G.B. collection network rolled up, closing the Farewell dossier. Gus Weiss died from a fall a few months ago. Now is a time to remember that sometimes our spooks get it right in a big way


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/02/opinion/02SAFI.html

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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2004, 11:13:45 AM »
MT... sometimes perception is 9/10 of reality... if that was the case it was good enough.

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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2004, 11:16:35 AM »
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MT... sometimes perception is 9/10 of reality... if that was the case it was good enough.

lazs


Isn't that what I said?

"Fortunately this proved to be enough to get the foreign policy job done, and I salute him for that."