Author Topic: Dr. Atkins was obese and had heart disease (Read 617 times)

Creamo · « **Reply #15 on:** February 11, 2004, 08:45:14 AM »

He dies, obese(260 at 6ft..porky)

True, but he was 72 for christs sake Pongo. And died from cracking his head from a slip on ice.

Dinger · « **Reply #16 on:** February 11, 2004, 10:17:51 AM »

Well, the question of how much he weighed when he entered the hospital is kinda important.

Assailing the report because the group that published this is "extreme" doesn't work. LIkewise, assailing a diet because its proponent was obese doesn't work.

What does work is to show that the "extreme" group distorted the facts or that the diet proponent was on the diet, and that was the cause of heart disease and obesity.

Pongo · « **Reply #17 on:** February 11, 2004, 10:39:02 AM »

The only parties helped by hiding his obesity and heart problems is atkins.com.
If Ronald Macdonald died with 80 pounds of undigested "all beef patties" in his gut would we want to know?

if one of these vegan nuts died cause his soft skull colapsed from lack of protien would we want to know?

What dr Atkins had done to himself and his heart is important to know. Shame of his clan for not allowing a full autopsy and clearing up the issue.
As it is we have a severly overweight man that had severe heart problems, his death of couse was because he hit his head.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2004, 11:06:55 AM »

what I heard originally was that the type of heart disease he had is caused by infection, not life-style. still haven't found that source again though.

SOB · « **Reply #19 on:** February 11, 2004, 11:31:36 AM »

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Stuart Trager, chairman of the Atkins Physicians Council in New York, told the Journal that Atkins’ heart disease stemmed from cardiomyopathy, a condition thought to result from a viral infection.

Veronica Atkins issued a statement acknowledging that her husband had been diagnosed with a heart condition known as cardiomyopathy about three years before he died, and that he had had a cardiac arrest in April 2002.

It was in that article and this one too, Apathy.

Pongo, the Atkins lifestyle has been around since the 70s, and plenty of people have and do follow it. I'm sure there are plenty of examples to be found. Why are you going all conspiracy theory on this one just because he started the thing? The veggies with obvious motives came out and said he died because of his diet. His family who has obvious motives gave a reasonable explanation of the circumstances of his health. The ME, said nothing, as they should. So you've simply got two opposing sides, both with a motive - and one of those sides stooping to illegally obtain someone's personal medial history and then relaying "facts" that can't be confirmed.

gofaster · « **Reply #20 on:** February 11, 2004, 11:40:22 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
And Freud was crazy and Fleming had infections and Einstein was actually wrong about some stuff..... BFD.

You forgot "Jim Fixx died of a heart attack."

gofaster · « **Reply #21 on:** February 11, 2004, 11:41:54 AM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
He dies, obese(260 at 6ft..porky) ...

How much did he weigh before the diet?

Pongo · « **Reply #22 on:** February 11, 2004, 02:12:45 PM »

"The inventor and first practioner of this diet died obese with estraordinarliy severe heart disease. But we dont think it had anyting to do with his once contraversial diet. Enjoy your steak breakfast!"

SunTracker · « **Reply #23 on:** February 11, 2004, 02:31:15 PM »

Pass the brown rice please.

Pfunk · « **Reply #24 on:** February 11, 2004, 03:16:31 PM »

The below report from the New York City medical examiner--which was inadvertently provided to a Nebraska doctor who is vehemently anti-Atkins--shows that the 72-year-old physician had suffered from a heart attack, congestive heart failure, and hypertension.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html

SOB · « **Reply #25 on:** February 11, 2004, 05:30:05 PM »

I think there are black helicopters flying over Victoria today.